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Conrad Murray: Dr. Steven Shafer reveals he drank propofol before study made

Katrina K Wheeler, Jackson Family Examiner
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The world has watched as the Conrad Murray trial began. Murray was the doctor of Michael Jackson when he passed away on June 25, 2009. The prosecution has called its last witness to the stand, Dr. Steven Shafer, and thus far, he has been on the witness stand for four days, and will be tomorrow as well. Dr. Shafer is an expert on propofol, and during his testimony, he revealed that he himself drank propofol once, to see its effect, prior to conducting a study on humans, to see if propofol being orally ingested would have any effect.

As insession.blogs.cnn.com reports, according to the testimony of Dr. Shafer, he explained that he drank 20 milliliters of propofol. prior to conducting a study with six humans. Dr. Paul White -- the defense' witness -- apparently had said in a report for the defense that oral ingestion may have been a possibility in Michael Jackson's passing. Dr. Shafer testified that he was "disappointed" because there is zero possibility of that having happened to Michael Jackson. The defense began its cross-examination of Dr. Shafer on Friday, and it is expected to continue tomorrow.

What do you think of the witnesses that have been called to testify thus far? Have you been following the Conrad Murray trial closely? Are you going to watch the trial until a verdict is reached?

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Tempers erupt in Jackson doctor trial

Gemüter entladen sich in Jacksons Arzt Prozess

Updated: 19:53, Sunday October 23, 2011


VIDEO im Bericht

Lawyers for Conrad Murray have dramatically challenged a key prosecution witness over his claim that the doctor was responsible for the death of Michael Jackson.

Dr Steven Shafer has testified that the only plausible explanation for Jackson's death was that he had been hooked up to a drip of the anaesthetic propofol, then left alone by Murray.

In cross examination, Murray's lawyer Ed Chernoff asked Dr Shafer: 'That's a bold claim, isn't it?'

Dr Shafer replied: 'It's an honest statement.'

Mr Chernoff also questioned the Columbia University researcher and professor about his demonstration of IV equipment for jurors on Thursday.

He suggested Dr Shafer had drawn conclusions that were not necessarily supported by the evidence.

In a bad-tempered exchange, Mr Chernoff asked Dr Shafer if he understood the difference between opinion and fact.

Mr Chernoff asked: 'You understand everything you said in the last few days was an opinion, right?'

Dr Shafer replied: 'I think I stated my name, which is a fact.'

Earlier Dr Shafer had admitted it was possible Jackson had opened a clamp to release a dose of drugs into the IV line but that Murray would still be responsible for not staying with his patient.

Murray has pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter. He faces up to four years in prison and the loss of his medical licence if convicted.

He had been Jackson's personal doctor as the star prepared for a series of comeback concerts at London's O2 arena. He was with Jackson when he suffered a fatal cardiac arrest in June 2009.

Dr Shafer, an expert on propofol, told jurors earlier this week that his explanation was supported by items found in Jackson's bedroom, the singer's post-mortem examination results and Murray's lengthy statement to police.

In a separate development, outside of the presence of the jury, judge Michael Pastor has ordered the defence's own propofol expert to face a hearing over whether he breached a court gagging order by speaking to a reporter.

Dr Paul White, who has known Dr Shafer for 30 years, was reported to have criticised both him and the prosecutor David Walgren while speaking to a TV network.

The defence is expected to call its first witness on Monday as the trial enters its fifth week.

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Hallo an alle :D
@FaIrIeFlOwEr @ghost777

FaIrIeFlOwEr schrieb:* Murrays Prozess wegen fahrlässiger Tötung könnte am Ende der nächsten Woche an die Jury gehen

Was soll das denn heißen?

FaIrIeFlOwEr schrieb:habe von einem anderen "Ersteller" den vollständigen 15. Verhandlungstag vom Conrad Murray Prozess entdeckt ... :D

Das ist toll .........Danke fürs einstellen :D :D

CosmicQueen schrieb:Was soll das denn heißen?

Vielleicht das Ende der Woche die Jury beraten soll ob nun schuldig oder nicht ??

@ghost777
Ich dachte es sollen noch 17 Zeugen der Verteidigung antreten, das würde doch bis Ende nächster Woche gar nicht reichen.

@CosmicQueen

CosmicQueen schrieb:Was soll das denn heißen?

na, das bedeutet, dass wenn die Zeugen der Verteidigung ausgesagt haben UND die Staatsanwaltschaft sowie die Verteidigung ihre Schlußplädoyers gehalten haben, dann geht alles an die Jury, die dann über Schuldig oder Nicht Schuldig einstimmig entscheiden müssen ... :D

CosmicQueen schrieb:Ich dachte es sollen noch 17 Zeugen der Verteidigung antreten, das würde doch bis Ende nächster Woche gar nicht reichen.

15 Zeugen sollen für die Verteidigung antreten ... :D

@FaIrIeFlOwEr
Aha, aber so viele Zeugen in so kurzer Zeit, das schaffen die doch NIE :D

@ghost777

ghost777 schrieb:Das ist toll .........Danke fürs einstellen :D

büdde ... :D :D hoffe aber, dass der andere Video "Ersteller" ab Montag wieder
alles aufnehmen kann ... :D

@CosmicQueen

CosmicQueen schrieb:Aha, aber so viele Zeugen in so kurzer Zeit, das schaffen die doch NIE :D

na, da sind aber Zeugen dabei, da wird die Aussage bestimmt nicht viel Zeit in Anspruch nehmen ...

z. B. die character witnesses - die Leumundszeugen ... da "tanzen"
wohl 5 ältere Patienten von Murray an ..

@FaIrIeFlOwEr

FaIrIeFlOwEr schrieb:z. B. die character witnesses - die Leumundszeugen ... da "tanzen"
wohl 5 ältere Patienten von Murray an ..

Was wollen die noch beweisen?? Meine Güte, der Murray ist Arzt, hat MJ das Propofol "verschrieben" und es geht auf seine Kappe, wenn etwas schief läuft. Egal ob MJ sich EVENTUELL selbst getötet hat oder nicht.

@FaIrIeFlOwEr
@CosmicQueen

Wünsch euch eine gute Nacht ..... träumt süß ... :D :D

@ghost777

Danke

schlaf und träume schön ... :D ... bis morgen ... :D

@ghost777
Schlaf schön, bis morgen....und schön Fit sein morgen. :D

Es gab wieder "wunderschöne" Blumen und Karten ...
Die Banner/Plakate wurden am Freitag erst am Gerichtsgebäude aufgehängt und dann mit zu MJ genommen ...

damit er im Mausoleum, in Holly Terrace, auf dem Forest Lawn auch alles sehen kann, was seine Fans so für ihn "veranstalten" ... aber die Banner werden doch bestimmt nicht ins Innere des Gebäudes gebracht ??? na, dann schaut sich MJ eben alles vor der Tür an ^^
Die Plakate hätten sie doch auch vor dem Gericht lassen können ... MJ kann doch alles überall auf der Welt "sehen" ^^ ...

@CosmicQueen

CosmicQueen schrieb:Was wollen die noch beweisen?? Meine Güte, der Murray ist Arzt, hat MJ das Propofol "verschrieben" und es geht auf seine Kappe, wenn etwas schief läuft. Egal ob MJ sich EVENTUELL selbst getötet hat oder nicht.

es ist doch Aufgabe der Verteidigung, alles zu versuchen, den Klienten zu "retten" ... und nun versuchen sie, den "guten" Ruf von Murray hinsichtlich seiner sozialen Wertschätzung, das Ansehen und die Unbescholtenheit zu bestätigen ...

hieß es nicht bisher, Murray hätte in der Praxis in Houston auch Patienten unentgeltlich behandelt ???
ältere, arme Menschen ...

es fehlt doch gerade jetzt eine kleine Inszenierung, wie Rettung im Flugzeug usw. ... :D aber das Video, über das "Beten", kommt bei einigen auch gut an ... :D

aber heute geht die Verhandlung mit erwarteter Spannung weiter ... hoffentlich hat es Dr. Shafer bald geschafft, den Zeugenstand verlassen zu dürfen ... der kann einem schon fast leidtun ... :D

obwohl nach unserem Rechtsverständnis eigentlich schon alles geklärt zu sein scheint, gibt es eine ganz große, unberechenbare Instanz ... das ist die JURY ... :(

auf den Seiten von MJJ-777 hat Seven am 23.10.2011 einen neuen, interessanten Bericht eingestellt ...

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STORY HIGHLIGHTS

* "I decided we must be together right now," Janet Jackson says
* Monday starts what could be the last week of Dr. Conrad Murray's trial
* Defense cross-examination of the prosecution's expert anesthesiologist continues
* About 15 defense witnesses are expected to testify

Story Highlights

* "Ich entschied, dass wir gerade jetzt zusammen sein müssen", sagt Janet Jackson
* Montag fängt an, das könnte die letzte Woche vom Dr. Conrad Murray Prozess sein
* Verteidiger Kreuzverhör des Anästhesie Experten der Staatsanwaltschaft geht weiter
* Ungefähr 15 Zeugen der Verteidigung werden erwartet, um auszusagen


Michael Jackson's family unites as Murray trial nears end

Michael Jacksons Familie vereint, während sich der Murray Prozess dem Ende nähert

By Alan Duke, CNN
October 24, 2011 -- Updated 0617 GMT (1417 HKT)


Dr. Conrad Murray's lawyers will use the next four days to challenge the prosecution's contention that he is responsible for Michael Jackson's death.

Los Angeles (CNN) -- With the involuntary manslaughter trial of Michael Jackson's doctor entering what could be its last week, Janet Jackson canceled shows in Australia to be with her family in Los Angeles.

Dr. Conrad Murray's lawyers will use the next four days to challenge the prosecution's contention that his reckless use of the surgical anesthesia propofol to help Jackson sleep makes him criminally responsible for the pop icon's death.

Janet Jackson sat with her parents and several siblings during the first five days of the trial, but she has not been at court in nearly three weeks.

"After talking with my family last night, I decided we must be together right now," she said in a statement posted Sunday on her website, announcing that three shows this week in Melbourne are canceled.

The concert promoter told Jackson fans it was "important that Janet is with her family at this critical point in the hearing."

If her flight arrives in Los Angeles before Monday morning, Jackson may see the last hours of the prosecution's key witness, anesthesiologist expert Dr. Steven Shafer.

The defense cross-examination of Shafer grew so heated and personal Friday that the judge called lawyers for a sidebar and ordered them to "cut it out!"

The defense is expected to begin presenting its case later Monday.

Murray's lawyers have said they plan to call about 15 witnesses, including three medical experts, a police officer and several of Murray's patients from his clinics in Las Vegas, Nevada and Houston.

Randy Phillips, the head of AEG Live, is set to be among the first witnesses the defense calls.

Murray's lawyers have argued that Jackson was pressured by Phillips, whose company was promoting his comeback concerts in London, to show up healthy and on time for rehearsals or else the tour might be canceled.

Murray told detectives Jackson begged for his "milk," his nickname for propofol, after a sleepless night and just hours before he died from what the coroner said was an overdose of the surgical anesthetic.

Murray, in a police interview, said he was using sedatives to wean Jackson from propofol, which he had used almost every night for two months to fight his insomnia. But after a long, restless night and morning, the lorazepam and midazolam had no effect, Murray said.

"I've got to sleep, Dr. Conrad," Murray said Jackson pleaded to him. "I have these rehearsals to perform. I must be ready for the show in England. Tomorrow, I will have to cancel my performance, because you know I cannot function if I don't get to sleep."

Murray said he gave into Jackson's pleas and gave him an injection of 25 milliliters of propofol at about 10:40 a.m.

Shafer testified last week that there was no way Jackson got only that amount of propofol, based on the high level of the drug found in blood taken during his autopsy.

The "only scenario" to explain Jackson's death was that he overdosed on propofol infused through an IV drip set up by Murray, Shafer said.

The Los Angeles County coroner ruled that Jackson's death was a homicide, the result of "acute propofol intoxication" in combination with sedatives.

The defense contends Jackson self-administered the fatal dose, along with sedatives, without Murray knowing.

Shafer said the level of propofol in Jackson's blood taken during his autopsy could not have been from either Murray or Jackson injecting the drug, but only from an IV system that was still flowing when his heart stopped.

Prosecutors, however, opened the door for one scenario in which Jackson, not Murray, could have triggered the overdose.

"Can you rule out the possibility that Michael Jackson manipulated something to cause it to flow?" Deputy District Attorney David Walgren asked Friday.

"That's a possibility," Shafer said. But that is assuming Murray set up the drip and left Jackson's side, he said.

Would Shafer's opinion that Murray was responsible for Jackson's death change if he knew Jackson turned the drip on?

"No, if Michael Jackson had reached up, seen the roller clamp and opened it himself, this is a foreseeable consequence of setting up an essentially dangerous way of giving drugs," Shafer said. "It doesn't change things at all. It would still be considered abandonment."

Defense lawyer Ed Chernoff cross-examined Shafer about the assumptions he used to reconstruct an IV drip system he believed Murray set up next to Jackson's bed. Shafer demonstrated the system in his testimony Thursday.

Jackson died because Murray failed to notice that his patient had stopped breathing while he was hooked up to an IV drip of propofol, Shafer testified. The doctor should have realized Jackson had stopped breathing, he said.

"When you're there, you see it, you know it," Shafer said.

Phone records and testimony showed that Murray was on the phone with one of his clinics, a patient, and then a girlfriend about the time that Shafer calculated the oxygen in Jackson's lungs became depleted, causing his heart to stop beating.

"Had Conrad Murray been with Michael Jackson during this period of time, he would have seen the slowed breathing and the compromise in the flow of air into Michael Jackson's lungs, and he could have easily turned off the propofol infusion," Shafer said.

Toxicology studies of drugs in Jackson's blood and computer models Shafer used to analyze how the singer died were overshadowed Friday when Chernoff focused on the personal and professional rivalry between Shafer and Dr. Paul White, the defense anesthesiology expert.

The experts first met in 1978 when White was an assistant professor at Stanford University and Shafer was a medical student. They became friends and co-authored research papers, but this trial appears to have changed their friendship.

Chernoff accused Shafer of wanting to "shove it down his (White's) professional throat" in a question stricken from the record by Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor.

White, who has been sitting in the courtroom listening to Shafer's testimony, was lectured by Judge Pastor about comments about Shafer attributed to him in an online blog.

White admitted Friday that he told a reporter that he had changed his opinion of Shafer after hearing his testimony Thursday. "The truth will come out. It always does," E! News Online quoted White as saying.

White denied calling Shafer "a scumbag," as the website quoted him as saying.

Pastor, who imposed a gag order on all parties in the trial, set a contempt of court hearing for White next month.


http://edition.cnn.com/2011/10/24/justice/california-conrad-murray-trial/

Jackson doctor's defense case expected to start

By ANTHONY McCARTNEY, AP Entertainment Writer – 1 hour ago

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Defense attorneys for the doctor charged in Michael Jackson's death are expected to begin calling witnesses in their case Monday after they finish grilling a key prosecution expert.

The defense case will be Dr. Conrad Murray's opportunity to counter four weeks of damaging testimony about him from 33 prosecution witnesses who have cast him as an inept, distracted and opportunistic doctor who repeatedly broke legal, ethical and professional guidelines.

The defense case is expected to comprise of 15 witnesses, although Murray's attorneys have not publicly revealed whether they will call the Houston-based cardiologist to testify on his own behalf. Jurors have heard from the doctor through a more than two-hour interview with police, and it seems unlikely that Murray's attorneys would subject their client to what would be blistering questioning from prosecutors.

Monday will begin with lead defense attorney Ed Chernoff questioning Dr. Steven Shafer, the prosecution's final witness and an expert in the anesthetic propofol, which Murray had been giving Jackson as a sleep aid. Chernoff's questioning on Friday challenged Shafer's conclusions and comments he had made about colleague Dr. Paul White, who will testify for the defense team.

So far, Shafer has not retreated from his position that Murray is solely responsible for Jackson's death and that the cardiologist committed 17 egregious violations of medical practices that each could have either led to Jackson's serious injury or death.

After Shafer is done testifying, Murray's attorneys will likely ask a judge to dismiss the involuntary manslaughter case against the cardiologist. Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor will rule on the oral motion immediately and if he rejects it, the defense case will begin.

Defense attorneys have said they will call police detectives who prosecutors did not call, several character witnesses, White and possibly other experts. They expect their case will last through Thursday.

Murray has pleaded not guilty, and faces up to four years behind bars and the loss of his medical license if convicted.

The defense will have its work cut out for them to try to sway jurors to acquit Murray.

"He will have to change the landscape here and show some reasonable doubt, said Marcellus McRae, a former federal prosecutor and trial attorney who has been following the case closely. "The question is will this be enough."

McRae said calling Shafer as the prosecution's final witness was a master stroke.

"Brick by evidentiary brick, Shafer has built a wall of scientific reasons for the jury to conclude that Dr. Murray was criminally negligent," he said. "It allows the prosecution to tell the jury that their case is built on science rather than shifting theories."

Out of sight of the jury, the defense's theory has shifted in recent months from arguing that Jackson swallowed propofol and gave himself the fatal dose and more recently that the singer had swallowed several pills of the sedative lorazepam, which led to his death.

They may also argue that Jackson somehow gave himself a shot of propofol after Murray left the room, killing him quickly.

Prosecutors have sought to discredit all those theories through Shafer, who himself drank propofol before the trial in an attempt to confirm that it wouldn't induce sedation or other ill effects. He called the amount of lorazepam in Jackson's stomach "trivial" and last week said the only possible explanation for Jackson's death based on the evidence was that Murray put the singer on IV drip of propofol and left the room after the singer appeared to be asleep.

This week, it will be the defense's turn to either offer alternate theories or somehow pick apart the prosecution's case.
___
AP Special Correspondent Linda Deutsch contributed to this report.

Copyright © 2011 The Associated Press.

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Conrad Murray trial week 4. LORAZEPAM theory. The brilliant DR. STEVEN SHAFER

October 18, 2011

This is a place to collect all information about week 4 of Murray’s trial.

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