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http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/threads/129265-Katherine-Jackson-vs-AEG-Live-Daily-Trial-Testimony-Summary/page3Jacksons vs AEG - Day 38 – June 26 2013 – SummaryPrince arrived with Katherine, TJ and Trent Jackson.
Michael Jackson Jr. Testimony
Prince's wearing a dark suit and dark tie, white shirt. (ABC7) Before his testimony, Prince sat in a chair in the “well” of the courtroom, looking around and taking everything in. The "well" is the area where attorneys and the court reporter sit. Prince sat across a barrier from his grandmother. Katherine Jackson, Trent and TJ Jackson all sat in the front row of the audience. All stood to greet the jury when they came in at 9:55 a.m. (AP)
Jackson directIn court, Prince wore a black suit with a dark grey tie with his long brown hair tucked behind his ears. He spoke softly as he began testifying, and the first exhibit shown to jurors was a photo taken with their grandmother on his and Paris' first day of school. He described his school life, including taking a summer course in U.S. history, participating on the school's robotics team and volunteer work. (AP)
The first 15 minutes of Prince Jackson’s testimony were dominated by family photos, videos. He said he helped pick them out for trial. Lots of photos were shown throughout Prince Jackson's testimony, including one of him, Paris and their grandmother on 1st day of school. (AP)
Jackson's attorney Brian Panish did direct examination. Prince Michael Joseph Jackson sworn in at 9:57 am PT. "Michael Joseph Jackson, Jr." Prince was originally named after the family name, but then his brother Blanket was born and they called him Prince. (ABC7)
Panish: Are you nervous? Prince: A little bit (ABC7)
He said he was born on Feb 13, 1997, he's 16 years old. Prince was born at Cedars Sinai Hospital. Prince said Paris he's 15 years old, born on Apr 3, 1998. Prince Michael Joseph Jackson, known as Blanket, was born on Feb 21, 2001; he's 11. (ABC7)
Prince said he attends Buckley School in Sherman Oaks, has just finished up sophomore year. Prince is taking US History class in the summer, a very compact course. He belongs to the National honor society, received artistic award. Prince used to play football and basketball, did martial arts. In school Prince works with metal. He said he's the mechanic, there is a team that design robots and they compete nationally. Prince said he has a 3.68 GPA. He said education is something important to him because it is something his dad taught them. Prince wants to go to college at USC to study either Film, or Mechanical science or business. Prince described how Michael taught him to find the good shots in movies, encouraged him to learn about films. MJ's son said community service is required in school and he does it at the Children's Hospital in LA. He described how he brought books and read to the kids that were in the cancer wards. Prince said he wants to help out as much as he can, got the desire to help from his father. (ABC7) "He always said you should give back to the community and to give back as much as you can," Prince said. "I got my desire to give back from my father." Prince added that his dad always told him "everything is a learning experience...always learn from your experience." (Eonline)
The testimony by Prince Jackson began with the teenager showing jurors roughly 15 minutes of private family photos and home videos. He described growing up on Neverland Ranch and showed the panel videos of the property's petting zoos and other amenities. After his father's acquittal of child molestation charges, Prince described living in the Middle East, Ireland and Las Vegas. (AP)
Another image shown to jurors was Michael Jackson playing piano with his son while Prince was still an infant or toddler. Plaintiff's attorney Brian Panish asked Prince whether he was interested in pursuing a career in music."I can never play an instrument and I definitely cannot sing," Prince said to laughter from the jury. (AP) He can't sing and he can't play an instrument, he noted, and added that his father suggested he could become an actor. (Today)
Prince said MJ always dressed them up so when he grew up, he could show his kids how he looked when little (ABC7)
Prince said he lived in Neverland and in France. Neverland was a property his dad owned and he lived there until he was 6 years old. "After the criminal case there were some complications in the house from the police; I guess they ruined the house for him" Prince testified . About Neverland, Prince explained: "When my dad bought the house, he built it for the kids he wanted to have, he built it for us." Prince said that Neverland was a family home, that everyone was family, from housekeeper to nanny. He said they had amusement park and zoo. Prince said Neverland's zoo had pet giraffe, alpacas; amusement park, poetry his dad wrote. "We only went there (amusement park and zoo) for special occasions, because my dad wanted us to remain humble," Prince said. (ABC7) One video showed a giraffe and several alpacas in the Neverland Zoo. "I never really went near them because they would spit on us," Prince said. (CNN) "I guess they ruined it for my dad," he said of the investigators handling the molestation case and why it led his father to leave Neverland. He said the fireplaces were always on, and so was classical music when the family lived at Neverland Ranch. (AP) His attorneys showed home movies and photos of Neverland, which Prince called "a very homey place." He said the children were only allowed to go to the zoo and ride the Ferris wheel on special occasions. "My dad wanted us to remain humble," he said. Posted around the compound, he said, were messages and poems from their father.“When children play, tyrants cry, there is nothing to say,” said one. (LATimes)
Prince said MJ loved making films of them. Panish showed several home movies and pictures of the children and Michael. MJ wrote the song"The Lost Children" for his children, Panish played clips of the song. (ABC7)
Prince said that after Neverland they travelled a bit: went to Bahrain, Ireland, Dubai, Aspen and New York for a little, and then to Vegas. "My dad had a lot of business, not just music, and he wanted to take us, he didn't want to leave us," Prince testified. Nanny changed from time to time, but mostly it was Grace Rwamba, Prince said. (ABC7)
"He (MJ) wanted to know what we were learning," Prince said. "He wanted to know how we were doing in school, how we could better the world." (ABC7) Prince Jackson said he would spend six days in school, either with his father or a tutor, learning about other cultures and religions. His father would ask them how they were doing in school and what they were doing “to better the world.” (LATimes)
Prince: We wrote a lot of screenplays, my dad taught me how to write scripts, helped me unlock thinking with the right side of my brain. Prince described how he and MJ would first watch movie without sound to learn to find the good shots. "We watched the sound afterwards and he would show how the sound could actually make or break the movie," Prince said. (ABC7) He described his interest in filmmaking as something he and his dad shared. They'd watch movies twice -- the first time on mute. Prince said his father would show him how the scenes were shot, and then impart on him how important sound was on the 2nd viewing. Prince said his dad gave him a necklace with a camera viewfinder on it, so he could see how to compose shots. (AP)
Jurors watched a home video of Michael Jackson questioning his three children about how they planned "to change the world" when they grow up.Prince testified that the video was made at Christmas.
"What's Christmas mean?" Jackson is heard asking his children.
"Love," Blanket responded.
"Who's Blanket going to be to change this world?" Jackson asked.
"I don't know," Blanket, who appeared to be about 5 at the time, answered.
"What does Paris want to do? Be honest search your heart," Jackson said.
"Help the poor," she answered. Paris also said she would like to be a gymnast.
Prince told his father he aspired to be a movie director and architect because he liked "making things." [CNN]
Plaintiff's attorney Brian Panish then showed a video of the kids on Christmas attorney. Jackson asked them what they wanted to do in life. Blanket said he didn't know. Paris said she wanted to help the poor.Prince: "I’d like to be a movie director and an architect." Paris also said she wanted to do something artistic, like gymnastics. (AP) Panish showed a Christmas video, where MJ is asking the kids what they wanted to do in life. He told Paris to search your heart. Paris said she wanted help the poor, and be a gymnast. Prince testified that day was the first time his dad taught him how to tie a tie. "Every time he would ask how we would help the world," Prince said. "Most my work ethics I learned from my dad." (ABC7) What's more, Prince noted he got his work ethic from the late pop star, stating, "If he wasn't working, he got depressed." (Eonline)
Panish asked if Prince would describe his father as "lazy." "I don't think he ever sat and did nothing, we were always running, exercising, he would teach me how to drive," Prince responded. (ABC7)
He told the jury that his father was always working, but his children had no idea he was a global superstar."We always listened to his music, but we never knew how famous he was," Prince said.He said he and his sister Paris watched a video of one of their father's performances and got a sense of his fame when overwhelmed fans were carried from his shows on stretchers. (AP). Prince said he really didn't know how famous his dad was until he watched movie of MJ's concert with girls crying, taken out in stretchers. "We always listened to his music, but we never knew how famous he was," Prince said. (ABC7) Prince said he and his brother and sister grew up not knowing how famous their father was. “He never wanted us to know,” he said. Prince said he and Paris discovered their dad’s fame after watching a video of one of his concerts. “We always listened to his music, but we never knew how famous he was,” Prince Jackson said. (AP)
Panish inquired about the masks the children wore while with MJ in public. "He used to make sure no one would know how we looked like; when we went out no one would recognize us, we could be normal kids" Prince said. Panish: Was your dad protective of you? Prince: Very (ABC7) His father, he testified, made all of them wear masks in public “so no one would know what we looked like so if we went out without him we could have a normal childhood.” Prince said he's now followed all the time."So I know why he did it. (LAtimes) "When I was little, the masks were annoying," he said. "It was hot and the feathers were always in my face but now that I'm older, I understand why he did it." (Today)
Prince said Grace worked with MJ before he was born then came on as nanny after his sister was born. She worked with them for about 12 years. (ABC7) Prince was asked a couple times about Paris now. He said she was having a rough time. He was asked about the deposition clip of Paris that was played earlier in the trial in which she related a story about nanny Grace Rwaramba Prince said he saw Grace and Paris together recently. “They were happy,” he said. (AP)
He then related the family receiving Kenya, their chocolate Labrador, on a Christmas morning a few years ago. Prince said his father was terrified of dogs, but wanted his children to have one. (AP) Plaintiff’s attorney Brian Panish then played a montage of the song “You Are My Life” played over several photos and a video. The video showed Prince, Paris and Blanket excitedly receiving Kenya. The montage was first shown during opening statements, but is now officially part of the evidence in the case. (AP)
Panish played clip of song "You are my life", which MJ wrote for the kids. Prince watched. Next Panish played video of the Christmas when kids got their chocolate Labrador dog named Kenya. Panish: How did you feel then? Prince: Very happy. Panish: How did you feel when you, your brother, sister and dad were living in Vegas? Prince: That was happy for us. Prince said they lived in a hotel before moving to Carolwood before Christmas 2008.(ABC7)
Prince talked about MJ's dealings with AEG and Dr. Tohme: "No, from what he (MJ) told me he wasn't happy with it." "He was very excited about the tour, this would've been probably last time we would be able to see him perform," Prince expressed. Prince said he saw MJ perform once when he was little. Prince said MJ would come home from rehearsal, he just wished he had more time to rehearse and have more time to prepare. (ABC7)
Prince then described his father’s feelings toward the “This Is It” tour. He said he wasn’t happy with the terms. Prince said his father was excited about performing the “This Is It” shows, but wanted more time to rehearse. Michael Jackson was excited about the prospect of performing for his children, and knew it would probably be his last tour, Prince said. “He just wished he had more time for rehearsals,” Prince said about the "This Is It" shows. (AP)
Prince saw MJ on the phone. Most of the times, it was with Randy Phillips or Dr. Tohme. "He'd get off the phone, he would cry sometimes," Prince said. "They are gonna kill me, they are gonna kill me," Prince said MJ would say. "He (MJ) would say "they are gonna kill me, they are gonna kill me", Prince testified, referring mostly to AEG and Randy Phillips, and Tohme. (ABC7) Prince then described seeing his father while he was talking on the phone with AEG Live CEO Randy Phillips. He said his dad would get upset. “He would cry sometimes,” Prince said of his dad’s conversations with Phillips. He said his father once told him “They’re going to kill me.” (AP) On Wednesday his son Prince said Jackson was upset on the phone "a lot of time," most of the time with AEG Live chief Randy Phillips. "He would cry sometimes. He said: 'They're gonna kill me, they're gonna kill me.'" Asked who he was talking about, he said: "People in AEG, Randy Phillips." (AFP)
Prince that his father was excited about going back on tour before his death but wasn't happy about the terms of the ill-fated shows. Prince Jackson told jurors his father wanted more time to rehearse and had several tense phone conversations with promoters of his "This Is It" shows that sometimes ended with his father in tears.The 16-year-old said his father remarked after one of the conversations, "'They're going to kill me,'" Prince testified. He did not elaborate.(AP)
"After he got off the phone, he would cry," Prince Jackson testified. "He would say 'They're going to kill me, they're going to kill me.'" His father told him he was talking about AEG LIve CEO Randy Phillips and his ex-manager, Dr. Tohme Tohme, Prince said. (CNN)
"My dad didn't fight, he was like my grandma, too kind to fight, that's why he called my grandpa," Prince said. (ABC7)
Prince: When at the Bel Air Hotel, my dad tried to fire Dr. Tohme. He got in a fight on the phone, yelled. Prince: We applauded him, we didn't like being around him (Dr. Tohme), he brought bad energy to us. (ABC7)
"My dad was always optimistic," Prince said. (ABC7)
Prince said he first met Dr Conrad Murray in Vegas. "He came over to our house to treat us for multiple sickness, cold and things like that". Prince said he remembers Cherilyn Lee coming to the house to give his dad IVs. He said he thought it was vitamins. "Dr. Murray came over every day, except Sunday night. He spent the nights," Prince said. "I saw him give my dad IV injection once, I thought it was vitamins," Prince recalled about Dr. Murray. Prince said that when Dr. Murray first started treating MJ he would do it in the library, and later on in the master bedroom upstairs. (ABC7) The 16-year-old told how Murray acted as the family doctor, treating the children for minor ailments. In the months before his death Murray "would come every day, except Sunday night," he said, adding that: "I saw him give my father IVs (intravenous drips) of clear liquid.... I saw IV holders and oxygen tanks" in his bedroom, he said. (AFP)
Panish: Did your dad write notes?
Prince: All the times, on mirrors, bathroom doors. Sometimes it was song lyrics or messages he got down from religious or spiritual leaders (ABC7)
Prince showed where his bedroom was. Paris had her own, Blanket would go back/forth between their bedrooms. (ABC7)
Prince said Blanket excels in school. (ABC7)
Prince then testified about the Carrolwood mansion. He said it was his understanding that his dad kept his bedroom locked. He said one time he tried to go into his father’s room, and it was locked. His dad was doing a meditation session on Skype, he said. (AP) "To my understanding the door to his bedroom was locked" Prince said. "When I tried I think he was meditating on Skype w/ person from India" (ABC7)
Prince also talked about seeing oxygen tanks in the home. He said they weren’t hidden and were visible to anyone downstairs. Prince on Conrad Murray: “I was 12, to my understanding he was supposed to make sure my dad stayed healthy.” (AP)
Prince said he saw IV bags and oxygen tanks at the house. Panish: Did you think it was weird to have oxygen tanks?
Prince: No, I was 12 and to my understanding he (Dr. Murray) was supposed to make sure my dad stayed healthy. (ABC7)
Prince said he never saw Murray's treatments of his father. "I was 12. To my understanding he was supposed to make sure my dad stayed healthy," Prince testified. (AP)
He then talked about Conrad Murray. He said it was his understanding from his dad that AEG was supposed to be paying Murray but wasn’t. Prince said his dad would give him and Paris a few hundred dollars occasionally to give Murray. Murray wouldn’t take the money directly from Michael Jackson, Prince said. He said the doctor would only take half the cash. (AP)
Prince said AEG wasn't paying Murray and MJ felt bad. "My dad used to give me couple hundred dollars to give to Murray," Prince testified. "I'd give him but he'd only take a portion of it" Prince recalled. He said money was to help Murray with the basics like food, water and gas. (ABC7)
After discussing Murray, Prince talked about AEG Live CEO Randy Phillips. Plaintiff's attorney Brian Panish then asked Prince if he ever saw Randy Phillips at the mansion on Carrolwood Drive. He said yes. Prince said he saw Phillips would sometimes show up when his father wasn’t home. He said he saw Phillips talk to Murray twice. He described a tense meeting in which Phillips seemed “aggressive” and was grabbing Murray by the elbow. Prince said he couldn't remember exactly which night he witnessed this tense meeting between Phillips and Murray. Prince said he thought he saw Phillips on the night of June 24, 2009, but he didn’t remember the exact date. He also said Phillips would sometimes come with Jackson’s on-again, off-again, manager, Tohme Tohme. (AP)
Phillips would come either with Dr. Tohme or some other man to his house, Prince said. "I saw him talk twice to Dr. Murray," Prince testified. "He was grabbing his elbow and looked aggressive to me.". "He (Phillips) was grabbing him (Dr. Murray) by the back of the elbow, they were really close," Prince recalled. Panish: Did it surprise you? Prince: Yes. Prince said MJ was in rehearsals either the night before or 2 nights before he died, Phillips showed up at the house to talk to Dr. Murray. "I came in and asked if they'd like something to drink or eat," Prince said. "Randy Phillips was talking to Dr. Murray, grabbing his elbow." As to Dr. Tohme, Prince said: "From what I heard he's not even a real doctor." "I was surprised they were all in the house," Prince said. "I hadn't seen Dr. Tohme in a while, I still didn't like him." (ABC7)
Prince said that he saw AEG Live CEO Randy Phillips at the family's rented mansion in a heated conversation with his father's doctor in days before his father's death. The teenager said he wasn't sure what day the conversation occurred, but that he saw Phillips grabbing former cardiologist Conrad Murray's elbow. Phillips "looked aggressive to me," Prince said. Michael Jackson wasn't at home at the time and was probably at rehearsals, Prince said. (AP)
Prince testified that Phillips visited Jackson's rented Los Angeles mansion and spoke aggressively to Dr. Conrad Murray the night before his father's death. "He was grabbing his elbow," Prince said. "It looked aggressive to me. He was grabbing by the back of his elbow and they were really close and he was making hand motions." He couldn't hear what Phillips was saying to Murray, he said. Michael Jackson was not there because he was at his last rehearsal, Prince said. He called his father from the security guard shack telephone to let him know Phillips was there. His father asked him to offer Phillips food and drink. Prince said that was his last conversation with his father. Prince was 12 when the pop icon died, but he said his father confided in him about whom he trusted and didn't trust and what he feared as he prepared for his comeback concerts. (CNN)
[Murray's attorney Valerie Wass and AEG defense attorney Marvin S. Putnam later denied outside court that the meeting Prince described ever happened. Putnam said Prince would be re-called to the witness stand during the defense case later in the trial. "I think as the testimony will show when he is called in our defense that's not what happened," Putnam said. "He was a 12-year-old boy who has had to endure this great tragedy." (AP)]
"From my perspective back then I thought he was healthy," Prince said about MJ. A few weeks later, Prince said MJ was working a lot and looked really, really skinny, almost malnourished. Prince: Sometimes he would be really cold. Sometimes really hot. He was not strong enough. (ABC7) The teen recalled that while preparing for the 2009 tour, his father would sometimes come down the stairs and be "freezing cold" and "not strong enough." Jackson looked "malnourished," his son said. (Today) In June 2009, Prince said his father was acting differently. “He ate by himself a lot,” he said of that time period. Michael Jackson would sometimes come downstairs and complain he was freezing, despite the fact it was summertime, Prince said. Sometimes his father would complain it would be too hot. “His body temperature was up and down,” Prince said. (AP)
Prince said he saw MJ last the day before he died. Last phone conversation was when he called his dad to say Randy Phillips was at the house. (ABC7)
Prince then talked about the day his father died. He said he heard screaming upstairs, then footsteps on the stairs. Prince said he went to see what was going on and saw Murray running back upstairs, then was told by Kai Chase the doctor needed him. Bodyguard Alberto Alvarez ran into the house and Prince said he ran upstairs. “I saw Dr. Conrad doing CPR on my dad,” Prince said. He said his father was hanging halfway off the bed, his eyes rolled back in his head. Paris Jackson was screaming for her dad, Prince said. He said he was crying while all this was going on. He said on the ride to the hospital, he tried to reassure Paris and Blanket by telling that angels were watching over them. Prince said the phrase about angels watching over them was something his father often said. Prince’s eyes were red while he testified about June 25, 2009. He didn't break down. He kept his composure throughout this testimony. Prince said he was optimistic about what would happen with his father, until Conrad Murray came in and told them he was dead. Prince recalls Murray telling him, Paris and Blanket something to the effect of, Sorry kids, dad’s dead. Michael Jackson’s manager, Frank Dileo, was also at the hospital, Prince recalled. (AP)
The day MJ died, Prince recalled being downstairs in the sitting room. He heard screaming coming from upstairs. "I ran into the kitchen, saw Dr. Murray go back upstairs, Alberto just came inside, Kai said Dr Murray wanted me upstairs," Prince described"I saw Dr. Conrad doing CPR on my dad," Prince testified. "My dad was hanging halfway off the bed and his eyes were rolled back in his head". "Me and my sister came upstairs," Prince said. "My sister was screaming the whole time, she wanted her daddy." Kids were escorted downstairs."I was waiting in the bottom of the stairs crying," Prince said. He saw the stretcher take MJ to the hospital. They followed the ambulance."My dad always told us that angels always look out for us," Prince said. He tried to comfort his siblings..Prince said Frank DiLeo and Dr. Murray told them 'sorry kids, dad is dead.' They said it was a heart attack "I just cried," Prince recalled. Sister Rose, my sister, my brother, me, security guard, Dr. Conrad Murray and Frank DiLeo were in the room. (ABC7)
The teenage also for the first time publicly described the day his father died. Prince was summoned to his father's bedroom and saw Murray performing CPR on his father, who was hanging off the bed halfway and it appeared his dad's eyes were rolled up in the back of his head. Prince's eyes appeared red as he described being told by Murray at a nearby hospital that his father was dead. (AP)
On the day of his father's death, Prince Jackson testified that the family chef screamed at him that Murray wanted him upstairs. No employees, except for Murray, were allowed upstairs. "My dad was hanging halfway off the bed and his eyes were rolling back in his head," he testified. "Murray was doing CPR. My sister was screaming the whole time saying she wants her daddy. I was waiting at the bottom of the stairs crying." When they got to the hospital, he told his sister, "Angels were watching over us," and tried to remain optimistic, but then Murray delivered the news that their father had suffered a heart attack. (today)
Prince was then asked about the memorial service in which the children appeared and Paris gave a heartfelt speech about her father. Prince said Paris’ speech was impromptu. “She just grabbed the microphone and started talking,” he said. (AP) Prince said Paris speaking during the memorial service was not planned. (ABC7)
Prince said he now lives with his grandma, cousin Trent, his sister and brother in Calabasas. Prince said they go back to Gary, Indiana for memorial services in the house MJ grew up on. Prince said his grandma Katherine Jackson and cousin TJ are his guardians. (ABC7) "It will never be the same," said the teen who lives with his grandmother, a cousin, and siblings in Calabasas, Calif. (Today)
The court took the morning break, and after that Panish asked Prince about the impact of his father’s death on his life. “Nothing will ever be the same,” Prince said. He said he has a hard time sleeping. He said his father's death had hit Paris especially hard. "She was my dad's princess," he said. He said that he and Paris don't celebrate birthdays anymore. They "wouldn't be the same without him," he said. As for Blanket, Prince said he's not sure he knows what he's lost. He said they're doing best they can as a family. Panish asked: "Do you miss your dad a lot?" Prince: "Yes." (AP)
After MJ died: "I can't sleep at night, have hard time sleeping" Prince said. "For a while, I became emotionally distant from lot of people". Prince said he wished his father was with him 1st day of school, talk about his first girlfriend, being able to drive, see his awards/honors. Panish: Do you think your dad is proud of your robotics work? Prince: Maybe, I tried making him proud. Prince: I think out of my siblings she (Paris) was hit the hardest, she was my dad'd little princess. She's dealing with it in her own way. Panish: Is she going through a rough time? Prince: Yes, she is. "Me and my sister don't celebrate birthdays, it was something we did with our dad," Prince said. Prince: Blanket was so young, my brother is still growing up like I am, he doesn't have a dad to tell him what's right and wrong. "We have someone, but it's just not the same," Prince said. Panish: Do you miss your dad a lot? Prince: Yes (ABC7)
Upon Michael's death, "we had our ways of dealing with it. [Paris] is having a hard time right now," said Prince (Eonline)
"I can't sleep at night," Prince said. "I have a hard time sleeping." The death left him "emotionally distant from a lot of people" for a while, he said. He's missed sharing with his father "the first day of going to school, having the first girlfriend, being able to drive," Prince testified. While Paris Jackson's suicide attempt and hospitalization was not brought up in court -- and it is unclear if jurors learned about it in the news -- Prince did speak about his sister. "I think out of all of my siblings she was probably hit the hardest because she was my dad's princess," he said. Prince said the questioning of Paris by AEG Live lawyers over two days in March was painful for her. "She had some problems before, after and, I assume, during," he said. "She definitely is dealing with it in her own way," her brother said.
Paris, who was 11 when her father died, is not available to testify in person in court because she is hospitalized for psychiatric treatment. While he and his sister no longer want to celebrate birthdays because "it's not the same without" their father, Blanket, now 11, does, Prince said. "Right now, I don't know if Blanket realizes what he lost," he said. "He was so young. He is still growing up just like I am and he doesn't have a father to guide him." (CNN)
AEG CrossMarvin Putnam, attorney for AEG, did the cross examination.
AEG Live lead lawyer Marvin Putnam's cross-examination of Prince lasted just 25 minutes. It centered on trying to discredit his testimony about Phillips' visit to his home and about cash payments that Prince said his father gave Murray at times. (CNN)
AEG Live defense attorney Marvin S. Putnam did the questioning. He focused on Jackson’s payments to Conrad Murray. Prince said he never saw his dad pay Murray while they lived at Carolwood, but he would give him and his sister money for the doctor. Murray would only take a portion of the stack of $100 bills that Michael Jackson provided, Prince said. Prince: “My understanding is that I don’t think Dr. Conrad didn’t want to take money from my dad because he felt bad.” (AP)
Putnam asked why MJ wouldn't give Dr. Murray money himself. "My dad tried to, but he would've never take the money," Prince said. "I saw my dad offer money to him, but he would never take it," Prince explained. Putnam: Did you father give money to Dr. Murray? Prince: Not directly. Prince: He (MJ) never gave him (Dr. Murray) the cash directly, he would always give it us to give to Dr. Murray. He would only take half."I don't think Dr. Murray wanted to take the money from my dad, he felt bad," Prince said. "Me & my sister would do it," he remembers a couple of times. Prince said in depo it was about 10 times, but Murray would not always take it. Prince said MJ started giving Prince and Paris money to give to Dr. Murray while they were living in Las Vegas. (ABC7) Prince also said his father gave him and his sister Paris a stack of $100 bills on a few occasions to give to Murray. The teen said his father told him that Murray wouldn't take the money from him, and the doctor wouldn't take the full amount from the children. The teenager said his understanding was that the money was meant to tide Murray over until he got paid by AEG Live. (AP)
Prince said there was a man chef who took Kai Chase's job in May 2009, then was let go and Chase went back. (ABC7) Prince was asked about a chef who worked at the Carrolwood mansion for the month Kai Chase was gone, but he didn’t know his name. (AP)
Prince said he didn't remember seeing anyone giving MJ's IV, other than Cherilyn Lee. (ABC7)
Putnam: No employees were allowed upstairs?
Prince: Yes (ABC7)
Prince said none of the household staff were allowed upstairs at the mansion, and the singer kept his bedroom locked while receiving treatments from Murray. (AP)
Prince said there was a time in 2009 no one was allowed to go upstairs. Only Dr. Murray could.
Prince testified that not even the housekeeper was allowed to go upstairs. (ABC7)
Prince said that when Cherilyn Lee was treating MJ, she would do it in the open, there was no door to lock.He said when Dr. Murray started, he also did it in the open. (ABC7)
During cross-examination, Putnam played a clip from a deposition of Prince in which the teen said he discovered the bedroom was locked when he and his siblings were playing hide-and-seek and couldn't get inside. (AP) Prince said he learned MJ's bedroom door was locked when he was playing hide and go seek and couldn't get in. (ABC7) Putnam at one point played some of Prince’s deposition. He described trying to playing hide-and-seek but finding his dad’s bedroom locked. Prince said he assumed that the door was locked when his dad and Conrad Murray were in the room together. (AP)
As to Dr. Tohme, Prince said he knew him for about 3 years. He said he never regularly saw him, though. (ABC7)
Prince said he saw Murray and Phillips talking two times. He doesn't remember dates, but thinks the 2nd meeting was the day before MJ died. (ABC7) Prince stood by his story about the Phillips and Murray encounter, although he conceded it could have been two nights before his father's death and not the last night. (CNN)
Putnam showed Prince another portion of his deposition in which he said he talked to his dad the morning after the Phillips/Murray meeting. That would rule out June 24th as the day of the tense exchange, but Prince said today he was unclear on which day the exchange happened. (AP)
Putnam asked Prince about how people got let into Jackson’s mansion, and the teenager dropped a zinger. Prince: “People from AEG, they got let in, but people like my grandpa would get turned away.” (AP) Prince said security would let AEG people and Dr. Tohme in, but "people like my grandpa were turned away." (ABC7)
Jackson redirectPanish took over questioning again, and he asked Prince about his deposition. It took place on a Saturday, but had to be interrupted. There was a lot of back-and-forth about how long the deposition actually lasted. Then he moved on to another question. (AP)
Prince said in re-direct he wasn't scared during his deposition, apologized to the jury for not wear suit that day; it was the weekend. (ABC7)
After his deposition, Prince said he told TJ that Paris shouldn't be able to do that and go through the questioning."She had some problems before, after and I assuming during her deposition," Prince said.
Panish: She had some emotional problems after her deposition?
Prince: Yes (ABC7)
Prince said Dr. Murray wasn't getting paid and that his dad wanted to help him out until he got paid."AEG was supposed to pay him," Prince said. "Something was going on with Dr. Murray's finance and he wasn't getting paid." (ABC7)
Prince remembered Cherilyn Lee being a nurse. Panish asked if Prince knew what Lee was injecting MJ with."I thought it was for my dad, so he could get the proteins he needed, he was burning so much," Prince responded. (ABC7)
Panish: “Have you ever gone through anything in your whole life like the loss of your father?” Prince: “No.” (AP)
AEG recrossIn re-cross, Putnam asked why deposition was on Saturday. Prince said he thinks it was due to school; continued another day.
Putnam: Do you remember your grandma thanking us for being so accommodating?
Prince: I don't remember that (ABC7)
Jackson redirectPanish: Did you think he was being a lawyer representing his client?
Prince: As a defense lawyer, yes
"It's not how I want to spend my Saturday," Price said about his deposition. (ABC7)
Putnam asked a few more questions about the deposition, Panish asked Prince about his impressions of Putnam and they were done. (AP)
Prince was then excused, subject to recall should AEG choose
[Prince is done testifying. After he left the witness stand, he hugged plaintiff's attorney Deborah Chang. Prince also went over and shook AEG defense attorney Marvin Putnam's hand. Chang sounded like she told him about Prince's grades. (AP)]
Former AEG Inc. CEO and president Tim Leiweke video deposition(source : all of the below is from ABC7)
Leiweke was the highest employee in the company in 2009. He said they have 130 different companies, 7-8 divisions within AEG.
Kevin Boyle: Are you aware the LA Kings have a team physician?
Leiweke: I would assume we do
"I'm not sure who hires the doctors for the Kings," Leiweke said.
Boyle: Do the doctors work for the team or for the players?
Leiweke: I'm not sure
Leiweke said he didn't remember the email Phillips sent him saying "MJ is locked in his room drunk and despondent.""I got a call from Randy Phillips about the press conference," Leiweke staid. However, he insisted he didn't remember the email."I said that five times, is that good enough?" Leiweke responded.Leiweke said Phillips called to say Michael had a hangover, they were late to get to the press conference and Randy was wound up.A subsequent conversation, everyone had calmed down, Leiweke said. "He was informing me that the press conference was going to be delayed" Leiweke said he was in an important meeting and asked Phillips to fill him in later.
"I knew Randy had production costs issues," Leiweke said. Leiweke didn't remember the exact number they had overspent.Leiweke didn't remember a specific board meeting where Phillips Anschutz was present and the tour budget was the sole topic.
Leiweke said he met Dr. Tohme once or twice in passing. He said he didn't remember ever having a meeting with Dr. Tohme about MJ.
"I remember it was an expensive commitment he as asking us to make," Leiweke said about the This Is It tour."We wanted to make sure that he was healthy," Leiweke said. "I believe our folks had a medical for the purpose of MJ and his health."
Boyle: Did you ever refer to Mr. Anschutz as paranoid scrooge?
Leiweke: I don't remember any specific conversation
Boyle asked if Mr. Anschutz was concerned with ticket scalping. "There had never been in AEG Live anyone scalping tickets" Leiweke responded. "Mr. Anschutz is very tight," Leiweke said. "I don't remember this email but I remember him being concerned tickets were being scalped."
Leiweke met Michael Jackson in person either 4 or 5 times."Michael wanted to tour," Leiweke said about the first meeting. "AEG Live was interested."Second time was in the guest house of Ron Burkle in Los Angeles. Jessie Jackson was there too, Leiweke said.
Boyle: What was the reason of the meeting?
Leiweke: There wasn't really one. We prayed a lot
"Michael asked to meet Mr. Anschutz to talk about films," Leiweke said about the third meeting in Las Vegas.
Leiweke said he never met Murray and/or exchanged emails, calls with him. The exec didn't remember specifically the 1st time he heard of him. Leiweke testified he never saw or heard the name Dr. Murray on pretour budgets.
"I've never seen this email between Randy and Kenny," Leiweke said about the 'Trouble at the Front' email chain.Boyle said the chain was forwarded to Leiweke. The exec apologized and said he doesn't remember ever seeing the emails."We were aware that MJ had missed several rehearsals," Leiweke said.Leiweke wrote email saying "Trouble with MJ. Big Trouble." He testified he didn't remember this specific email.
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Tomorrow's witnesses: TJ and Taj Jackson. Jackson's attorney told us they aren't sure if Paris will testify. It's up to her doctor to ok it
Sylvina schrieb:Ab heute werden die Familienmitglieder vor Gericht aussagen, beginnend heute mit Prince.
