Artenvielfalt - Produkt der Schöpfung oder Evolution?
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Niselprim schrieb:Jemand mit höherem IQ kann besser lernen - was ihm interessiert.Ganz genau!
Bei Wilden werden die an Körper und Geist Schwachen bald beseitigt und die, welche leben bleiben, zeigen gewöhnlich einen Zustand kräftiger Gesundheit.So habe mir das Ding mal angesehen und fand es nicht gerade uninteressant.
Auf der andern Seite tun wir civilisierte Menschen alles nur Mögliche, um den Prozess dieser Beseitigung aufzuhalten. Wir bauen Zufluchtsstätten für die Schwachsinnigen, für die Krüppel und die Kranken;
Hierdurch geschieht es, dass auch die schwächeren Glieder der civilisirten Gesellschaft ihre Art fortpflanzen.
Niemand, welcher der Zucht domesticirter Tiere seine Aufmerksamkeit gewidmet hat, wird daran zweifeln, dass dies für die Rasse des Menschen im höchsten Grade schädlich sein muss
charles darwin die abstammung des menschen 1871
Darwin selbst war ein RASSIST und deine Verteidigung wird die Tatsache nicht ändern. in dem Buch Leben und Briefe von Charles Darwin [The Life and Letters of Charles Darwin], veröffentlicht 1888. Darwin schlug vor, durch Eliminierung der "rückständigen" Rassen würde die natürliche Zuchtwahl eine Rolle bei der Entwicklung der Zivilisation spielen und er sagte später exakt folgendes über die Türkische Nation:
Ich könnte zeigen, dass die natürliche Auslese mehr für den Fortschritt der Zivilisation bewirkt hat und immer noch bewirkt, als Sie bereit zu sein scheinen zuzugeben. Erinnern wir uns, welch hohem Risiko die Europäischen Nationen noch vor wenigen Jahrhunderten ausgesetzt waren, von den Türken überwältigt zu werden und wie lächerlich ein solcher Gedanke heute ist! Die zivilisierteren sogenannten Kaukasischen Rassen haben die Türken im Existenzkampf haushoch geschlagen. Wenn wir die Welt in nicht allzu ferner Zukunft betrachten, werden wir sehen, welch endlose Zahl niederer Rassen durch höher zivilisierte Rassen ausgelöscht sein werden.
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Die herrschende Wissenschaft hat Intelligenz in Forschung und Lehre mit einem strengen Verbot belegt. Zuwiderhandlungen werden verfolgt. In ihrer Überheblichkeit vergaß sie jedoch, dass es in jeder Generation Rebellen gibt, die sich von Verboten nicht besonders beeindrucken lassen. Ben Stein deckt auf, wie erstklassige Wissenschaftler und Hochschullehrer reihenweise lächerlich gemacht und gefeuert werden – nur weil sie in der Natur vorhandene Spuren von Design entdeckt haben.
In der Konfrontation mit dem Gott-Hasser Richard Dawkins, einem der Architekten des darwinistischen "Wissenschafts-Gulags", kann Ben Stein zudem zeigen, wie erstaunlich schwach, ja teilweise komisch, Dawkins wissenschaftliche Basis ist. Ben Stein stellt die richtigen Fragen – und das Ergebnis gibt ihm Recht: spannend, unterhaltsam, komisch und informativ – aber mehr als ärgerlich für diejenigen, die die Wissenschaft dazu missbrauchen, Gott aus seiner eigenen Schöpfung aussperren zu wollen.
With savages, the weak in body or mind are soon eliminated; and those that survive commonly exhibit a vigorous state of health. We civilized men, on the other hand, do our utmost to check the process of elimination. We build asylums for the imbecile, the maimed and the sick; we institute poor-laws; and our medical men exert their utmost skill to save the life of every one to the last moment. There is reason to believe that vaccination has preserved thousands, who from a weak constitution would formerly have succumbed to small-pox. Thus the weak members of civilized societies propagate their kind. No one who has attended to the breeding of domestic animals will doubt that this must be highly injurious to the race of man. It is surprising how soon a want of care, or care wrongly directed, leads to the degeneration of a domestic race; but excepting in the case of man himself, hardly anyone is so ignorant as to allow his worst animals to breed.Gerade der zweite Absatz zeigt, dass Darwin es für etwas schlechtes hielte, wenn wir unsere Schwachen vernachlässigen würden. Eine Euthanasieforderung (die so auch nichts mit Rassismus zu tun hat), kann man daraus aber nicht ableiten.
The aid which we feel impelled to give to the helpless is mainly an incidental result of the instinct of sympathy, which was originally acquired as part of the social instincts, but subsequently rendered, in the manner previously indicated, more tender and more widely diffused. Nor could we check our sympathy, even at the urging of hard reason, without deterioration in the noblest part of our nature. The surgeon may harden himself whilst performing an operation, for he knows that he is acting for the good of his patient; but if we were intentionally to neglect the weak and helpless, it could only be for a contingent benefit, with an overwhelming present evil. Hence we must bear without complaining the undoubtedly bad effects of the weak surviving and propagating their kind; but there appears to be at least one check in steady action, namely the weaker and inferior members of society not marrying so freely as the sound; and this check might be indefinitely increased, though this is more to be hoped for than expected, by the weak in body or mind refraining from marriage.
It may be doubted whether any character can be named which is distinctive of a race and is constant... they graduate into each other, and.. it is hardly possible to discover clear distinctive characters between them... As it is improbable that the numerous and unimportant points of resemblance between the several races of man in bodily structure and mental faculties (I do not here refer to similar customs) should all have been independently acquired, they must have been inherited from progenitors who had these same characters. — The Descent of Man (1871)Auch war Darwin ein Gegner der Sklaverei, welche damals ja noch weite Unterstützung erfuhr:
I thank God, I shall never again visit a slave-country. To this day, if I hear a distant scream, it recalls with painful vividness my feelings, when passing a house near Pernambuco, I heard the most pitiable moans, and could not but suspect that some poor slave was being tortured, yet knew that I was as powerless as a child even to remonstrate. I suspected that these moans were from a tortured slave, for I was told that this was the case in another instance. Near Rio de Janeiro I lived opposite to an old lady, who kept screws to crush the fingers of her female slaves. I have stayed in a house where a young household mulatto, daily and hourly, was reviled, beaten, and persecuted enough to break the spirit of the lowest animal. I have seen a little boy, six or seven years old, struck thrice with a horse-whip (before I could interfere) on his naked head, for having handed me a glass of water not quite clean; I saw his father tremble at a mere glance from his master's eye. These latter cruelties were witnessed by me in a Spanish colony, in which it has always been said, that slaves are better treated than by the Portuguese, English, or other European nations. I have seen at Rio de Janeiro a powerful negro afraid to ward off a blow directed, as he thought, at his face. I was present when a kind-hearted man was on the point of separating forever the men, women, and little children of a large number of families who had long lived together. I will not even allude to the many heart-sickening atrocities which I authentically heard of; — nor would I have mentioned the above revolting details, had I not met with several people, so blinded by the constitutional gaiety of the negro as to speak of slavery as a tolerable evil. Such people have generally visited at the houses of the upper classes, where the domestic slaves are usually well treated, and they have not, like myself, lived amongst the lower classes. Such inquirers will ask slaves about their condition; they forget that the slave must indeed be dull, who does not calculate on the chance of his answer reaching his master's ears.und
It is often attempted to palliate slavery by comparing the state of slaves with our poorer countrymen: if the misery of our poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin; but how this bears on slavery, I cannot see; as well might the use of the thumb-screw be defended in one land, by showing that men in another land suffered from some dreadful disease. Those who look tenderly at the slave owner, and with a cold heart at the slave, never seem to put themselves into the position of the latter; what a cheerless prospect, with not even a hope of change! picture to yourself the chance, ever hanging over you, of your wife and your little children — those objects which nature urges even the slave to call his own — being torn from you and sold like beasts to the first bidder! And these deeds are done and palliated by men, who profess to love their neighbours as themselves, who believe in God, and pray that his Will be done on earth! It makes one's blood boil, yet heart tremble, to think that we Englishmen and our American descendants, with their boastful cry of liberty, have been and are so guilty...Beide Zitate aus Kapitel XXI des Buchs The Voyage of the Beagle (1839).
lesslow schrieb: Zudem um die Beweise, die mit nichten zu der Behauptung es handele sich um eine Beschreibung über "Die Entstehung der Arten" ausreicht.Solltest du glauben, dass die Erkenntnisse der synthetischen Evolutionstheorie heute noch auf den Werken von Darwin fußen, dann bist du leider völlig falsch informiert und nicht in der Lage hier mitzudiskutieren.
lesslow schrieb:Ich sehe keinen Widerspruch zwischen Evolution und Schöpfung.Ja, dann hast du dich offensichtlich noch nicht doll mit den Sachen beschäftigt. Bist du christlich?
Dr.Shrimp schrieb:Ja, dann hast du dich offensichtlich noch nicht doll mit den Sachen beschäftigt. Bist du christlich?Ich bin ohne Konfession. Sehe trotzdem keinen Widerspruch darin.