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A.U.T.E.C. die Area 51 der Navy

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A.U.T.E.C. die Area 51 der Navy

10.01.2012 um 19:22
AUTEC ist nur nen Krieg-Spielplatz
Atlantic Undersea Test and Evaluation Center (AUTEC)

The Atlantic Undersea Test and Evaluation Center (AUTEC) range systems provide accurate underwater and in-air tracking for both firing platforms and targets using a variety of acoustic beacons and sensors. By taking advantage of the growing maturity of underwater acoustic telemetry, AUTEC can also provide two-way digital data communications with submarines operating at speed and depth. Systems already under test have demonstrated reliable, secure, two-way data transmission over several nautical miles at data rates exceeding one kilobit per second (Kbps). While this is neither wide-band nor long range, it adequately supports the current requirement, and expected advancements will bring higher data rates and longer ranges in the future.

The Atlantic Undersea Test and Evaluation Center (AUTEC) Operating Areas (OPAREA) are located in the vicinity of Andros Island, Bahamas. Facilities and instrumentation for deep-water test and evaluation are available. The complex consists of the following instrumented operating areas:

OPAREA T-1 through T-8
AUTEC Shallow Water OPAREA
Large Area Tracking Range (LATR)

The following non-instrumented danger areas which are the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) equivalent to warning areas are located in this OPAREA:

Danger Area D-3002
Danger Area D-3003

AUTEC's semi-tropical climate, quiet acoustic environment, and extensive capabilities make it an ideal year-round test facility. AUTEC is located at Andros Island because of its close proximity to the Tongue of the Ocean (TOTO). TOTO is a unique deep-water basin approximately 110 nautical miles long (204 kilometers) and 20 nautical miles wide (almost 37 kilometers), varying in depth form 700-1100 fathoms (1280-2012 meters). The basin floor is relatively smooth and soft, with very gradual depth changes. TOTO is bounded on the west by Andros Island, to the south and east by large areas of very shallow banks that are non-navigable, and to the north by the Northwest Providence Channel. This unique geography results in very low vessel traffic, minimal distant shipping noise, an absence of large ocean swells, and slight currents, while providing operational security and easy access to deep water. These factors make the TOTO an excellent location for a test facility.

North of the TOTO, in the southern boundary of the Northwest Providence Channel, is a shallow-water plateau that varies in depth from 5-400 fathoms (9-731 meters). This convenient plateau, which is adjacent to the Berry Islands, is a prime choice for satisfying littoral warfare test requirements. Other surrogate shallow-water test sites off the east coast of Florida are also available.

AUTEC consists of two facilities. One is located in West Palm Beach, Florida and supports test planning, logistics, and administrative requirements. The actual test facility and range complex is located 285 km/177 nm southeast of West Palm Beach at Andros Island and the Tongue of the Ocean (TOTO) in the Bahamas. Access to Andros Island is limited and must be arranged through the Commander, Naval Undersea Warfare Center Division in Newport, Rhode Island. The AUTEC test facility on Andros Island covers approximately 1 square mile. The test range sea surface covers 2,670 nm2, and unlimited altitude airspace covers 835 nm2.

AUTEC aircraft make scheduled daily flights between West Palm Beach and Andros Town Airport. Commercial flights and special charters are available to supplement the AUTEC flights. Major test support facilities on Andros Island are located at Site 1 in the Command Control Building and Range Support Facility. The Command Control Building houses the range tracking displays and replay centers, the computer center, photo lab, communications center and the central timing system.

The Range Support Facility houses a torpedo post-run workshop, Mk 46/Mk 50 Intermediate Maintenance Activities (IMA), a Target Mk 30 IMA, a Mk 48 R&D Turnaround and extensive technical laboratory facilities. The complex includes electrical and physical calibration labs, a complete electronics maintenance shop, a dive locker, a precision machine shop/office and logistic spaces.

AUTEC has a 285 foot long concrete pier with a controlling depth of 17 feet (5.2 meters) at mean low tide. An adjacent wharf is approximately 240 feet long (72 meters) with a controlling depth of 15 feet at mean low tide. 440 VAC power is available at both locations (200 and 60 Amp at the pier and 60 Amp at the wharf). Facilities at the pier/marine area include fully equipped machine/fabrication and marine overhaul shops.

At Site 1 there are six Range User Buildings (RUBs) available to range users for assembling test equipment and equipment check-outs during a mobilization or dockside period. These staging areas are equipped with a variety of power sources, gantry cranes, compressed air and other minimal to maximum security capabilities. A fully equipped range user hanger, for ground maintenance and storage of helos, is located adjacent to the helo landing area.

Designed specifically as a high-precision RDT&E test facility, the Weapons Range is primarily used to gather highly accurate positional data required to analyze and assess the performance of undersea warfare weapons, weapons systems, and component subsystems. The range provides for 3-dimensional in-water and in-air tracking of multiple objects simultaneously, making it suitable for testing both shipboard and aircraft weapons systems.

The Weapons Range is roughly parallel to the east coast of Andros Island. It is the larger and more versatile of the AUTEC ranges, being over 9 nautical miles wide (17 kilometers) and 35 nautical miles lone (65 kilometers), and capable of tracking nine objects simultaneously. The range is supported by the Main Base (Site 1) and various smaller sites located to the south along the east coast of Andros Island. AN/WQC-2A Sonar Communications Sets provide underwater voice and command link coverage, while HF and UHF radio communications are available over the entire range.

In-air tracking extends to about 70,000 feet (21,000 meters) over the Weapons Range. In-air data are taken in the same coordinate system as the in-water tracking data, allowing multiplatform tests to be monitored in real time and facilitating post-test analysis. Surveillance radars are provided to assure safety.

The in-water portion of the Weapons Range is divided into two instrumented sections located about 2 miles (3.2 kilometers) apart. The larger section, located off Sites 3 and 4, consists of a rectangular array of hydrophones covering an area approxiamately 5 nautical miles wide (9 kilometers) by 15 nautical miles long (28 kilometers). The section provides in-water tracking over an area of up to 230 square nautical miles. The second section, located to the southeast of Site 1, provides a tracking area of about 120 square nautical miles. The two sections of the Weapons Range may be used either independently or simultaneously to support tests.

The primary mission of AUTEC's Fleet Operational Readiness Accuracy Check site (FORACS) is to perform precision measurements of the accuracy of target and navigation sensors installed on surface ships, submarines, and helicopters. AUTEC is certified by the Naval Sea Systems Command (NAVSEA) to perform Sensor Accuracy Tests and is affiliated with the NATO FORACS program. The eight participating NATO member nations are Canada, Denmark, Germany, Greece, Italy Norway, the United Kingdom, and the United States.

AUTEC has a variety of underwater acoustic measurement systems. For measuring the acoustic signatures of quiet vehicles, a high-gain vertical line array is deployed from a boat rigged for quiet operation. The line array is lowered to the running depth of the submerged vehicle so that the vehicle lies within the beamwidth of the line array. Other systems include a portable measurement system composed of a hydrophone, cable, and spectrum analyzer, all powered by batteries and operable from small boats; calibrated, broadband sonobuoys (AN/SQQ-58) for remote collection of ambient noise, biologics, etc.; an omnidirectional hydrophone located on the OHDF, supplemented by an array of sensors, for measuring the acoustic noise of buoyant ascent vehicles. These systems are often operated within the Weapons Range to conveniently measure the separation distances between test vehicle and hydrophone(s) which allow accurate range corrections.

AUTEC, the Navy's premier east coast in-water test facility, recently established a shallow-water test range and minefield to meet the need for operations and evaluation in the challenging littoral environment. Conveniently situated just 8 miles from our local landing site, the shallow-water facility is located 65 miles (120 kilometers) north of AUTEC Site 1 in the southern boundary of the Northwest Providence Channel in the Berry Islands, Great Stirrup Cay, Bahamas.
Quelle: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/autec.htm


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A.U.T.E.C. die Area 51 der Navy

30.01.2012 um 06:02
Der größte Witz war für mich der Typ mit dem Zeittunnel in den Wolken... DAS ist mal ein Fall von Wichtigmacher. Paradebeispiel...


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A.U.T.E.C. die Area 51 der Navy

30.01.2012 um 11:35
schön dass hier alle wissen was richtig oder falsch ist/sein könnte :)


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A.U.T.E.C. die Area 51 der Navy

30.01.2012 um 14:37
@Lannister er war aber nicht der erste,da gab es mal ein anderen bericht der damit nichts zutun hat hier.


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A.U.T.E.C. die Area 51 der Navy

30.01.2012 um 15:01
@skyze
skyze schrieb:@Lannister er war aber nicht der erste,da gab es mal ein anderen bericht der damit nichts zutun hat hier.
du verwechselst das nicht mit dem Film "Das Philadelphia Experiment"?


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A.U.T.E.C. die Area 51 der Navy

30.01.2012 um 15:29
Auch wenn ich jetzt sicher wieder mit Tomaten beworfen werde ^^...aber diese Basis ist schon interessant nicht nur wegen dem Bermuda Dreieck oder sonderbaren Geologische Unterwasser Formationen ..die USO verdichtung sowie Flugwege markanter Ufo-Fälle deuten schon in diese richtung egal ob von Florida oder Peru ect. bzw. gibts da auffallende verdichtungen oder mögl. Knotenpunkte

selbst wenn dass nix damit zutun hat müsste es dort aufgefallen sein. es ist auch gut möglich dass für manche stationierte dass eine trostlose Gegend ist. interessant ist was in dem Becken unterwasser ist oder alles passiert.dass ist grossflächig abgeschirmt und mit div. Schutzmassnahmen gesichert.


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A.U.T.E.C. die Area 51 der Navy

31.01.2012 um 11:36
@smokingun
smokingun schrieb:die USO verdichtung
was nicht wirklich verwunderlich ist für ein Unterwasser Test Areal.


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A.U.T.E.C. die Area 51 der Navy

31.01.2012 um 12:48
@Dorian14
Dorian14 schrieb:was nicht wirklich verwunderlich ist für ein Unterwasser Test Areal.
ich rede von Usos..Objekte die in & aus dem Wasser tauchen oder sich im wasser bewegen so dass normale Submarines nicht in Frage kommen.. also hat die Basis doch was damit zutun ?

nur als bsp. etwas weiter süd-östlich liegt Puerto Rico ..ein Hotspot von Usos siehe Projekt Argus.


Auszug:

March 1963,American submarines were involved in exercises with a fleet of surface ships one hundred miles off Puerto Rico.

One of the submarines broke off from its assigned course and began pursuing an unidentified object which their instruments told them was travelling in excess of 150 knots at a depth of 20,000 feet.

Optical physicist and ufologist Bruce Maccabee had investigated the incident and stated that such speeds and depths were, and still are, impossible for today’s submersibles (with the crush depth for submarines being about 7,000 feet). (Quelle:waterufo.net)

They looked toward the sea and saw a black disk come out the water with pulsating red and orange lights. It flashed it lights heading north and strait up and out of site in about 15 seconds. Some other persons like the Puerto Rico Police Department also viewed the incident, and reported to his headquarters.

The USO was tracked for four days by the carrier group, with the object moving at impossible speeds before stopping - reports were sent to CINCLANT (Commander-in-Chief Atlantic Command), but no determination was made as to the nature of the unidentified craft.

Diskussion: USOS- Zusammengefasst! Eine Chronologie, näher betrachtet


1963 war zufällig auch das Jahr wo:

Zitat:
A joint United States/United Kingdom Agreement signed in 1963 with the concurrence of the Bahamian Government, enabled the United States to develop this area of water and certain territory on the east coast of Andros Island, readily accessible to the TOTO, and there install equipment to build three offshore test ranges. Under this agreement, the Royal Navy has equal access to the test facility.
Wikipedia: Atlantic_Undersea_Test_and_Evaluation_Center


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A.U.T.E.C. die Area 51 der Navy

31.01.2012 um 14:07
@Dorian14 ne ich guck auch shcon aber mir fällt nicht mehr ganz der titel ein.


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A.U.T.E.C. die Area 51 der Navy

31.01.2012 um 14:23
Ich kann nur den bereits geposteten text auf verschiedenen seiten und in foren finden.

Weitere Details scheint es zu dem Puerto Rico Vorfall von 1963 nicht zu geben.

Vielleicht kann smokingun da ja weiterhelfen.


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A.U.T.E.C. die Area 51 der Navy

31.01.2012 um 14:25
@Dorian14 ich bin mir aber sicher und das ist selten ^^


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A.U.T.E.C. die Area 51 der Navy

31.01.2012 um 14:28
A sonar operator aboard a destroyer reported that one of the subs suddenly commenced pursuit of an unknown submerged object that was moving at "over 150 knots" (170-plus miles per hour!). According to most accounts, similar sonar reports of a high-speed object began coming in from all of the other ships and from the sonar-trailing aircraft. One of Sanderson's sources stated that no less than 13 craft recorded in their logs that their sonars had tracked this object. Allegedly, the unknown target continued to be tracked for four days as it maneuvered down to depths of 27,000 feet! (This must have been in the vicinity of the Atlantic's deepest point -- 28,374 feet below sea level -- in the Puerto Rico Trench.)
If the above story is true, .....
http://www.waterufo.net/item.php?id=174


das ist zunächst alles was ich zur Geschwindigkeitsangabe finden konnte, bin mir nicht sicher ob es der gleiche Fall ist, interessant wäre natürlich ein offizieller Report und der Name dieser Sonar Operators. Mal schaun, vielleicht findet sich noch was...


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A.U.T.E.C. die Area 51 der Navy

31.01.2012 um 14:31
@UNKNOWNbrother
Das war aber vor Norwegen.
Außerdem war es ein Mitglied der Royal Navy
angeblich.


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A.U.T.E.C. die Area 51 der Navy

31.01.2012 um 14:36
@UNKNOWNbrother
@Dorian14


ich hab das nicht von ATV .. ich hab die quelle mal gehabt aber ich finde es leider auf die schnelle nicht dieser fall ist aber nicht erfunden.. solche Sonar messungen gab es ja einige wir hatten dass mal in einem andern Thread .

mal gucken ob ich dass noch finde das wirdt ja an versch stellen erwähnt. aber spanisch kann ich leider auch nicht.


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A.U.T.E.C. die Area 51 der Navy

31.01.2012 um 14:38
@Dorian14
ähhh? echt?
The only other publicized USO sonar contact that this investigator could uncover turns out to be not much more than an unsubstantiated rumor related in the late Ivan T. Sanderson's Invisible Residents (New York: The World Publishing Company, 1970; Avon Books, 1973). Citing Martin Caidin's Hydrospace (New York: E.P. Dutton & Co., 1964) and Ed Hyde's article "U.F.O.'s --At 4500 Fathoms!," Man's Illustrated (Mar. 1966) as two of his sources, Sanderson pooled the various versions of the story and came up with a composite account which can be summarized as follows:
Sometime in 1963 (the same year as the Preston episode) the U.S. Navy was conducting antisubmarine exercises off Puerto Rico. The craft included five smaller naval vessels, submarines, aircraft (at least one towing a dunking or dipping sonar below the ocean surface), and possibly the carrier Wasp serving as the command ship.


A sonar operator aboard a destroyer reported.....


wie auch immer wären hier ein paar mehr Details hilfreich.. ansonsten bleibt leider nur:
turns out to be not much more than an unsubstantiated rumor


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A.U.T.E.C. die Area 51 der Navy

31.01.2012 um 14:41
smokingun schrieb: solche Sonar messungen gab es ja einige wir hatten dass mal in einem andern Thread .

Ja, wir hatten das Thema ja wie gesagt schon mal in einem anderen Thread, ich find das Thema grundsätzlich interessant egal was oder wer da hinter steckt..


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A.U.T.E.C. die Area 51 der Navy

31.01.2012 um 14:43
@UNKNOWNbrother

ja finde es auch sehr interessant..


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A.U.T.E.C. die Area 51 der Navy

31.01.2012 um 15:44
@UNKNOWNbrother


.diese Geschichte lässt sich wirklich nicht belegen. ich weiss nicht ob es mit spitzberg Exercise zusammenhängt das ein paar tage zuvor war , ich habe denn Fall gefunden im Buch von Carl W. Feindt Ufo&Water (das hab ich mir mal zugelegt) aber da steht das gleiche drin.

die quelle wirdt wohl das Mufon Journal sein von 1984 da hat das W. Webb erwähnt.

http://www.nicap.org/articles/MUJ_Nov1984_pp7-10.pdf


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A.U.T.E.C. die Area 51 der Navy

31.01.2012 um 15:55
smokingun schrieb:http://www.nicap.org/articles/MUJ_Nov1984_pp7-10.pdf
;)
http://www.waterufo.net/item.php?id=174

ok. ich glaub ich hab wirklich einen anderen Fall gemeint als den von Preston, dieser ereignete sich ja nicht in Puerto Rico sondern Norwegen.

Ich konnte bisher folgendes raus finden.
Der einem Fall der sich in Puerto Rico ereignet hat, handelt es sich um diesen:
http://www.waterufo.net/item.php?id=262
der erstmalig im Buch Hydrospace von Martin Caidin Wikipedia: Martin_Caidin 1964 erwähnt wurde.
http://books.google.de/books/about/Hydrospace.html?id=rdlRAAAAMAAJ&redir_esc=y
auf waterufo.net wird im Ursprungsartikel nicht genau auf die Geschwindigkeit eingegangen ausser:
Its speed seemed unbelievable. At its depth, that unseen and incredible thing---whatever it was ---endured a pressure of nearly 2 million pounds per square foot!
And it was moving with a speed they could estimate only as being
equal---perhaps superior---to that of the fastest nuclear submarine known.
Den Folgeartikel über dieses Ereignis von Ed Hyde konnte ich leider nicht im Internet finden.
Aus diesen beiden resultiere jedenfalls der Bericht in Sandersons Buch.


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