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04.10.2011 um 00:46
@FaIrIeFlOwEr
@CosmicQueen

Diese Zeugin .....

Mitarbeiterin von CM in Las Vegas Praxis
lernte CM durch ihre Großmutter kennen, die er behandelt hat, in 2003/2004

sie ist keine ausgebildete Schwester oder PTA

hat diverse Tätigkeiten ausgeübt
Telefon aber auch Blutdruckmessen u. ä.

CM war üblicher Weise eine Woche in seiner Praxis in Las Vegas und die darauf folgende Woche in seiner Praxis in Houston

http://www.mjackson.net/forum/showthread.php?15217-03.10.11-5.-Prozesstag-Zeugen-Dr.-Cooper-............-Diskussion/page17

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04.10.2011 um 00:47
@FaIrIeFlOwEr
Zitat von FaIrIeFlOwErFaIrIeFlOwEr schrieb:dann scheinen sie jetzt die Telefonliste durchzugehen ...
Deshalb kamen die auch ganz zu Anfang...das alles hat System. :D


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04.10.2011 um 00:47
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Danke, für die Infos :D


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04.10.2011 um 00:51
Michael Jackson Death Trial: ER Doctor Says Murray 'Sounded Desperate' and 'Looked Devastated'

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Cardiologist Dr. Thao Nguyen testifies during Dr. Conrad Murray's trial in the death of pop star Michael Jackson, Monday, Oct. 3, 2011, in Los Angeles. (Mario Anzuoni/Pool/AP Photo)

By JIM AVILA (@JimAvilaABC) , BRYAN LAVIETES, KAITLYN FOLMER (@ABCKaitlyn) , JESSICA HOPPER (@jesshop23) and CHRISTINA NG
Oct. 3, 2011


The cardiologist called to UCLA Medical Center's emergency room when Michael Jackson was admitted to the hospital June 25, 2009, testified today that Dr. Conrad Murray, on trial for Jackson's death, "sounded desperate" and "looked devastated" in the hospital.

Dr. Thao Nguyen said Murray said to her and other doctors, "Do not give up easily. Please try to save his life."

Nguyen said she was called to the emergency room when she received a page saying that a VIP patient, Michael Jackson, had been admitted to the hospital.

"By the time I came down, the patient appeared lifeless," Nguyen said. "I couldn't find a pulse. My attending couldn't find a pulse."

But Murray told Nguyen's attending physician that he had detected a pulse so, acting in "good faith," Nguyen said, she and her team continued to attempt to resuscitate Jackson. They made an agreement with Murray that if another attempt and resuscitation efforts with a balloon pump proved futile, she said, they would pronounce him dead. The procedure was unsuccessful and Jackson was pronounced dead.

Nguyen also testified that when she began to ask Murray questions he was not able to tell her the time Jackson stopped breathing, when medication was administered to him that day or the interval of time between the two events.

"He said he did not have any concept of time," Nguyen told the court. "He did not have a watch."

She added that when she "specifically asked" Murray if Jackson had taken any other sedatives or narcotics, "his reply was negative."

Murray asked both Nguyen and her attending doctor "that we not give up easily and try to save Michael Jackson's life," Nguyen said.

"In Dr. Murray's mind, if we called it quits at that time, it would be giving up easily," Nguyen said. "[It's] not a case of too little, too late. It seems like a case of too late."

Earlier in the day, an emergency room doctor who attempted to resuscitate Michael Jackson the night he died said that even if Dr. Conrad Murray had told her Jackson had taken the drug propofol, it would not have changed her treatment.

"Had Dr. Murray told you he had given 25 mg of propofol at 10:30, would it have altered your treatment of Michael Jackson?" asked defense attorney Michael Flanagan at the second week of Murray's trial for involuntary manslaughter in Jackson's overdose death on June 25, 2009.

"No," answered the doctor, Richelle Cooper, who was on duty at UCLA Medical Center's emergency room the night Jackson died.

"Would that have altered the result that happened to Michael Jackson?" Flanagan asked.

"As I said, Mr. Jackson died long before he became my patient," Cooper answered. "Knowing more, it's still unlikely I could have done something different to him."

Murray told Cooper that he was treating the singer for dehydration and that Jackson had no history of health problems, witnesses have testified.

On Friday, Cooper and paramedics who responded to an apparently lifeless Michael Jackson said Murray did not tell them that Jackson was taking the powerful anesthetic propofol to sleep.

Murray told Cooper that the only medications that Jackson took regularly were valium, an anti-anxiety medication, and Flomax, which is used to treat an enlarged prostate or someone suffering from a kidney stone, according to testimony at the trial.

Murray's defense team now admits that Murray gave Jackson 25 mg of the creamy anesthetic propofol but argues that Jackson himself took an additional dose of propofol and a sedative without his doctor's knowledge, leading to his death. Propofol is typically administered in a hospital setting.

Cooper testified today that in a routine administration of propfol, or any sedative, she would have an additional person in the room as a monitor to keep track of the patient's vital signs.

Cooper did not recall Murray's demeanor on the day of Jackson's death or whether he was particularly "frantic," as Flanagan suggested.

"I recall speaking to him, and I assumed when I was speaking to him [that] I was getting honest and truthful answers," Cooper said.

Cooper declared Jackson dead after an hour and 13 minutes of attempted resuscitation "failed and seemed to be futile."

The fifth day of the trial marked the first time that Jackson's parents, Katherine and Joe Jackson, and his sister LaToya were not in court. Katherine Jackson reportedly left Los Angeles over the weekend with Michael Jackson's three children to attend the Canadian premiere of Cirque du Soleil's new show, "Michael Jackson: The Immortal World Tour."

Michael Jackson siblings Janet, Randy, Rebe and Jermaine, and Jermaine's wife, were in the courtroom today.

Also expected to testifying were three of Murray's girlfriends, including Sade Anding, who spoke to Murray on the phone right before Jackson's death.

A coroner ruled that Jackson died of "acute propofol intoxication" in combination with sedatives.

Prosecutors argue that Murray is criminally responsible for Jackson's death for administering propfol, a surgical anesthetic, to help Jackson sleep. They are accusing Murray of medical negligence and reckless use of the drug.

The defense argues that Jackson caused his own death by taking eight pills of lorazepam and orally taking propofol while Murray was out of the room.

Murray is charged with involuntary manslaughter and faces up to four years in prison if convicted.



http://abcnews.go.com/US/michael-jackson-death-trial-er-doctor-murray-desperate/story?id=14655502


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04.10.2011 um 00:56
@CosmicQueen
Zitat von CosmicQueenCosmicQueen schrieb:Deshalb kamen die auch ganz zu Anfang...das alles hat System.
ja, die Beiden von der Telefongesellschaft sollten diese Listen erklären ... alles Aufzeichnungen, bei denen nichts gemauschelt wurde ...

sie haben jetzt eine andere Reihenfolge .... hat also mit der Folge der Zeugen bei der Voranhörung nichts zu tun ... ja, ein anderes System ... :D


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04.10.2011 um 01:03
Doctor at Murray trial: Jackson couldn't have been revived in ER
By Alan Duke, CNN
October 3, 2011 -- Updated 2205 GMT (0605 HKT)


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Los Angeles (CNN) -- The emergency room doctor who declared Michael Jackson dead testified Monday in the involuntary manslaughter trial of Dr. Conrad Murray that there was no way doctors could have revived the pop icon after he arrived at the hospital.

Dr. Richelle Cooper testified Friday that Murray never told her that he had given Jackson the surgical anesthetic propofol before he stopped breathing, but she said Monday it would not have made a difference if he had because Jackson "had died long before."

"It is unlikely with that information that I would have been able to do something different that would have changed the outcome," Cooper said.

Prosecutors argue that Murray's failure to tell paramedics and doctors trying to resuscitate Jackson about the propofol is one of the negligent acts that make him criminally responsible for Jackson's death.

Another doctor testified Monday that the decision to place an aortic balloon pump in Jackson's heart was "a desperate attempt, even though very much futile" effort intended "to prepare Dr. Murray mentally to accept the fact that Mr. Jackson could not be rescued and would allow Mr. Jackson to depart in peace and dignity."

Dr. Thao Nguyen said Murray asked that "we not to give up easily and try to save Mr. Michael Jackson's life," Nguyen said, even though it seemed hopeless.

They placed a balloon pump in Jackson's aorta in an unsuccessful effort to restart his heart, she said. "It's not a case of too little, too late, but a case of too late," Nguyen said.

Prosecutors are also expected to call three of Murray's girlfriends to the witness stand to talk about their conversations with the doctor just before he realized Jackson had stopped breathing.

Monday is the fifth day of testimony in Murray's involuntary manslaughter trial, which is expected to last at least four more weeks.

The trial resumed without Jackson's mother. Katherine Jackson left Los Angeles for Canada with her son's three children during the weekend to attend Sunday's premiere of Cirque du Soleil's "Michael Jackson: The Immortal World Tour" in Montreal. A source close to the Jackson family said she would not return to the trial at least until October 10, since she will also travel to Cardiff, Wales, for a tribute concert for her late son.

Jackson family members in court Monday morning included siblings Janet, Rebe, Randy and Jermaine.

Prosecutors argue that Murray, who was Jackson's personal physician as he prepared for planned comeback concerts, is criminally responsible for the singer's death because of medical negligence and his reckless use of propofol to help Jackson sleep.

The coroner ruled that Jackson's June 25, 2009, death was the result of "acute propofol intoxication" in combination with sedatives.

Dr. Cooper had recommended at 12:57 p.m., when Jackson was still at his home, that paramedics stop resuscitation efforts and declare him dead. Jackson was the first patient she had ever treated in the emergency room after having made such a recommended to paramedics in the field, she said.

"I have never given a time of death in the field and then have that patient brought to me," she said.

She said this exception was not because Jackson was a celebrity, but because the patient had a physician with them who did not want them to give up.

Prosecutors have criticized Murray, who is a cardiologist, for using propofol on Jackson, contending it should be used only by anesthesiologists who have proper monitoring equipment.
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Cooper, their own witness, acknowledged under questioning by defense lawyer Michael Flanagan that she uses it regularly as an emergency room doctor.

The judge instructed lawyers not to disclose their witness list ahead of time. However, the prosecution has been following the same order of witnesses used in Murray's preliminary hearing in January.

Representatives from two cell phone companies testified Monday morning about records of calls to and from Murray's cell phones the morning Jackson died. The call times play a key role in determining the time line of what Murray was doing in the hours before Jackson's death.

Los Angeles Police homicide Detective Dan Myers, who led the Los Angeles Police Department investigation of Jackson's death, is also a likely witness Monday or Tuesday.

Los Angeles County Coroner Investigator Elissa Fleak will probably testify within the next two or three days about searching Jackson's home after his death. She said at the preliminary hearing that she found seven pill bottles on the nightstand next to Jackson's bed and an empty bottle of propofol on the floor near his bed.

Murray's defense lawyers contend Jackson caused his own death by swallowing eight lorazepam pills and orally ingesting propofol while Murray was out of the room.

The girlfriends, who could begin testifying as soon as Monday afternoon, include Sade Anding, a cocktail waitress who met Murray when she was working at a Houston steakhouse. Anding testified in January that she was on the phone with Murray when he suddenly stopped responding to her just before noon the day Jackson died.

That is the moment prosecutors contend Murray first realized that Jackson had stopped breathing. "I didn't hear him on the phone any more," Anding said. "I heard commotion as if the phone was in a pocket and I heard coughing and I heard a mumbling of voices."

Anding said she stayed on the phone for another five minutes, listening and wondering why the man she sometimes dated wasn't responding. "Hello, hello, are you there?" she testified she said.

The timing of the phone call is key to the prosecution's time line of when Murray realized his famous patient was dying. Based on testimony so far, the moment came at 11:57 p.m.

Bridgette Morgan, who met Murray at a club in 2003, is expected to talk about developing a social relationship with Murray. She spoke to him on the phone about 30 minutes before Murray apparently discovered there was a problem with his patient.

Nicole Alvarez, the mother of Murray's youngest child, may follow them on the witness stand. Her testimony is especially important because the propofol Murray used on Jackson was shipped to her Santa Monica, California, apartment.

Alvarez, 29, who met Murray around 2005 in a Las Vegas gentlemen's club, made it clear when she previously testified that she knew little about the doctor's activities.

"Dr. Murray and I were on a need-to-know basis, and I just know my place and my position in his life," Alvarez said.

Murray called Alvarez from the ambulance as he accompanied Jackson to the hospital, according to testimony in the preliminary hearing.

The judge imposed a gag order Friday, preventing lawyers for Murray from talking to reporters about the case. His order came after he learned Matt Alford, a law partner to lead defense lawyer Ed Chernoff, gave a television interview to NBC's Ann Curry on Friday morning.

If convicted of involuntary manslaughter, Murray could spend four years in a California prison and lose his medical license.

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/10/03/justice/california-conrad-murray-trial/


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04.10.2011 um 01:04
@FaIrIeFlOwEr
@CosmicQueen

http://www.mjackson.net/forum/showthread.php?15217-03.10.11-5.-Prozesstag-Zeugen-Dr.-Cooper-............-Diskussion/page17

Frage von Brazil ob sie von dem Brief wusste, den CM an seine Patiente verschickte
Ja sie wusste davon und wurde vor dem Versenden des Briefes darüber informiert
CM teilte mit dass er nach Übersee gehen würde um als persönlicher Artz von MJ zu arbeiten
Zeugin konnte keine Angaben machen, wann genau sie über den Brief informiert wurden

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Es wird durch die Verteidigung festgehalten, dass die normale Arbeitswoche von CM so aussieht
Montags + Mittwochs nachmittags = hat Patienten in der Praxis
Montags + Mittwochs morgens= Visite der Patienten im Krankenhaus
Dienstags morgens = hat Patienten in der Praxis -- nachmittags = Patienten im KH
Freitags = Behandlungen von Patienten im KH

warum sie in CM's Praxis angeboten hat als Voluntärin zu arbeiten
weil sie gesehen hat wie er ihre Großmutter behandelt hat und dass er sehr nett gewesen wäre und sie sehr gut behandelt hat


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04.10.2011 um 01:04
jetzt kommt ja die Freundin, Bridget Morgan ... die hatte bei der
Voranhörung nicht viel zu sagen ... :D


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04.10.2011 um 01:08
sie ist schon entlassen ... :D :D


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04.10.2011 um 01:10
@FaIrIeFlOwEr
@CosmicQueen

Puhhhhhhhh das wars für heut .............


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04.10.2011 um 01:11
@FaIrIeFlOwEr @ghost777
Schade, jetzt wo es interessant geworden wäre. :D


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04.10.2011 um 01:11
@ghost777

ja, der Richter verabschiedet die Jururen ... :D :D


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04.10.2011 um 01:12
@CosmicQueen


ja, dann fängt es morgen bzw. später ganz interessant an ... :D :D


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04.10.2011 um 01:13
@FaIrIeFlOwEr
Da hast du auch wieder recht. :D


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04.10.2011 um 01:13
na, der Richter ist doch mal lustig ... :D aber er hat ja auch keine großartigen Entscheidungen zu treffen ... :D :D


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04.10.2011 um 01:14
@FaIrIeFlOwEr @ghost777
Ich verabschiede mich auch für heute, wünsche eine Gute NACHT und bis später... :D


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04.10.2011 um 01:15
@CosmicQueen
danke, dir auch eine gute Nacht ... bis später ... :D


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04.10.2011 um 01:15
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@CosmicQueen


Ich geh dann auch ....schlaft schön :D :D


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04.10.2011 um 01:17
@ghost777

gute Nacht ... bis später :D :D schlaf auch schön ...


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04.10.2011 um 01:17
Schnell noch ....

Bridgett Morgan, Freundin im Jahr 2009.
Sie telefonierten am 25.09.2009.
Und nun ist wieder eine Unterbrechung, nach dem Richter Pastor die Staatsanwältin gebeten hatte, die Frage nach der Beziehung zueinander anders zu stellen.

Weiterhin wurde sie gefragt, ob Murray ihr erzählt hat, dass er Michael Jacksons Arzt ist.

Nachtrag:
Das hatte sie bejaht. Richter Pastor belehrt sie gerade. Es geht speziell um Social-Networks und den Kontakt, den sie damit hatte.
Richter Pastor beendet bis morgen.

http://www.mjackson.net/forum/showthread.php?15217-03.10.11-5.-Prozesstag-Zeugen-Dr.-Cooper-............-Diskussion/page17


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