Bone02943 schrieb:Also ich finde es schon sinnvoll mehr Transparenz zu schaffen und so auch das Verhältnis zwischen Polizei und Bürger zu verbessern. Das es Menschen gibt, die angst haben eine Anzeige gegen Polizeibeamte zu erstatten, ist ein ganz schlechtes Zeichen. Vorallem mit dem Grund keine Chance auf Recht zu bekommen und am Ende nur selbst auf der Anklagebank zu landen.
Das kommt auf den Preis an, den man zahlt.
NAtürlich wäre es schön, wenn man POlizeigewalt immer LÜckenlos aufklären könnte.
Da wäre aber zunächst mal zu klären, ob bodycams das können und wenn ja ob sie nicht anderweitig schaden anrichten oder man das GEld besser investieren könnte.
Wikipedia: Body worn video (police equipment)#United StatesHier mal von Wiki. Den part mit 'yes they work' habe ich deswegen ausgelassen, weil der sich auf studien bezieht, die zunächst eingetrudelt sind, während die anderen sich auf metastudien mit zeitlichen abstand beziehen (also schlichtweg mehr daten haben und damit belastbarer sind).
No: they don't' - the Washington study
As more studies in more police departments were performed, the evidence became more mixed. One of the most robust studies was done among thousands of Washington, D.C. officers, led by David Yokum at the Lab@DC, a team of scientists embedded in D.C. government, and Anita Ravishankar at D.C.’s Metropolitan Police Department (M.P.D.). The evaluation found no effect on use-of-force by officers or on the number of complaints by civilians.[41][42][43] The researchers concluded that police officers equipped with body cameras used force and confronted civilians in a similar manner compared with officers without body cameras: “This is the most important empirical study on the impact of police body-worn cameras to date. ... These results suggest we should recalibrate our expectations” of cameras’ ability to make a “large-scale behavioral change in policing, particularly in contexts similar to Washington, D.C.". The study not only presents statistical analyses, but also provides qualitative research and analysis to shed light on the controversies surrounding the cameras. According to the study, several factors could explain why the cameras did not change the behavior of the police - even though there was a high level of compliance to the rules governing the activation of the cameras: desensitization to the cameras and the fact that police officers already performed better due to an increase in monitoring of their actions before the introduction of the cameras. A third possibility was that officers without cameras acted similar to officers with cameras, because they were aware of their colleagues who did wear these devices.[43] Since the Washington-study, several others have been published that concluded the body cameras did not live up to - perhaps too high - expectations. The meta-evaluation cited below contains information on all studies if they met the methodological quality requirements.
'It depends' - meta-evaluations
In reviewing the existing research on police body-worn cameras in 2017, University of Virginia economist Jennifer Doleac noted that the existing research was mixed as to whether the cameras reduce the use of force by police officers or increase the communities' trust in police.[1][44] But a reduction in complaints against police using excessive force does not necessarily mean there are fewer cases of misconduct, it could mean that people are just not speaking up or the body camera was not tuned on and the footage cannot be investigated. More time and research was expected to allow a more precise answer to whether or not body worn cameras improve officer conduct.[45] As more empirical evidence became available, the importance of differences in local contexts and policies was revealed. The level of discretion that officers have in the activation of the body cameras has, for instance, been suggested as one of the deciding characteristics in any body camera policy and therefore in the results that can be expected. Unintended outcomes can even be the result from increased transparency due to over-deterrence: officers who know they are being recorded, will only do the minimum required. These officers will also tend to do everything by the book, reluctant to apply discretion.[46][47] More information on the results of these meta-evaluations is presented below under 'Impact studies'.
GErade in dem zweiten part siehst du, dass es zu dem problem kommen kann, dass beamte dinge nur 'by the book' tun, was ihre arbeit behindert und verschlechtern kann. Also die Sorge, die ich da geäußert habe. Denn sie müssen ja sorge davor haben, ansonsten einen auf den Deckel zu bekommen.
WEiter unten dort bei impact studies:
Use of force (16 studies) went down according to five of the rigorous impact studies. Four other studies, however, showed no statistically significant effects. The level of discretion officers have may explain these differences, one team of researchers suggested. As with complaints, use of force is rare and may not be the best measure of the impact of BWCs on police officer behavior. Other studies look at arrests and citation behaviours (fourteen studies showed 'no clear patterns') or on proactivity (six studies: 'results not definitive'). The question whether BWCs impact on disparate outcomes in policing has yet to be tackled.
Klar positive auswirkungen konnte man also nicht finden und bei denen, wo man sie vermutet, könnte es auch einfach daran liegen, dass Beamte eben sehr viel vorsichtiger sind (also eben möglicherweise selbst da nicht gewalt anwenden, wo sie angezeigt wäre, weil sie nicht sicher sind).
Immerhin:
At least 32 studies focused on officer attitudes about cameras. First of all, the authors describe the methodological challenges of many of these studies. Despite those issues and despite mixed findings, one consistent theme is that once officers start using cameras, they feel positive or become more positive about BWCs.
Wobei mir hier nicht klar ist, ob es sich auf die permanent angeschalteten kameras bezieht.
Sind natürlich auch studien aus den USA, wo das Polizeigewalt Problem VIEL größer ist als hier.
Aber für 'kann manchmal ganz gut sein, vielleicht' finde ich es im HInblick darauf, dass das POlizeigewalt problem in D sehr klein ist, irgendwie unsinnig, permanente einsatzkameras bei jedem POlizisten zu fordern, einfach ganz pauschal, nur weil irgendwer irgendeine Dunkelziffer schätzt.
