15:29:http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-28360784
Ukraine's SBU security service has confiscated recordings of conversations between Ukrainian air traffic control officers and the crew of the doomed airliner, a source in Kiev has told Interfax news agency.
...http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article39162.htm (Archiv-Version vom 21.07.2014)
"The B777 was escorted by 2 Ukrainian fighter jets minutes before disappearing from radar (5.48 pm)"
"If the Kiev authorities want to admit the truth 2 fighter jets were flying very close a few minutes before the incident but did not shoot down the airliner (5.54)"
"As soon as the Malaysia Airlines B777 disappeared the Kiev military authority informed us of the shooting down. How did they know? (6.00)"
"Everything has been recorded on radar. For those that don't believe it, it was taken down by Kiev; we know that here (in traffic control) and the military air traffic control know it too (7.14)"
"The Ministry of the Interior did know that there were fighter aircraft in the area, but the Ministry of Defense didn't. (7.15)"
"The military confirm that it was Ukraine, but it is not known where the order came from. (7.31)"
Carlos's assessment (a partial compilation of his tweets is collected here http://slavyangrad.wordpress.com/2014/07/18/spanish-air-controller-kiev-borispol-airport-ukraine-military-shot-down-boeing-mh17/ ): the missile was fired by the Ukraine military under orders of the Ministry of Interior - NOT the Ministry of Defense. Security matters at the Ministry of the Interior happen to be under Andriy Parubiy, who was closely working alongside US neo-cons and Banderastan neo-nazis on Maidan...
At 2:00, July 18, two movers each with a Buk missile launcher crossed the Russian border in Luhansk region. At 4:00, another three movers: one of them empty, other carrying a launcher with four missiles and the latter allegedly with a control unit, crossed the state border.Überschrift übersetzt: "BUK-M1" in Richtung Ukrainisch Russische Grenze
Die sollen erstmal die Mitschnitte der Gespräche mit den Lotsen freigeben, dann denk ich drüber nach.Babushka schrieb:Der Ukrainische Geheimdienst SBU, hat "Beweise" vorgelegt:
Frag mich was noch alles passiert wäre wenn die Seperatisten, nicht so scharf dahinter wären, dort den Zugang so lange zu begrenzen, bis die Fachleute da sind...unreal-live schrieb:Sky News entschuldigt sich für das Durchwühlen der Koffer
