Die Wahrheit wäre mir lieber gewesen.OpLibelle schrieb:Was wäre Dir denn lieber gewesen? Ein martialischer Hau-Drauf-LBJ, der Oswalds Mexico City Reise in der Öffentlichkeit breit getreten hätte? Und ein aufgestacheltes Volk, das nach Rache geschriehen hätte, noch bevor feststand, wie es wirkich war?
Er hat Zeit seines Lebens angezweifelt dass Oswald alleine hinter dem Attentatsversuch stand- dass Oswald unmittelbar danach festgenommen worden, dann aber durch Intervention Bobby Kennedys wieder auf freien Fuß gesetzt worden sei
er hat Dinge gewusst, BEVOR sie die Behörden wussten
Ja Walker war gut vernetzt-
Larry Hancock argues in his book, Someone Would Have Talked, that Vidal traveled to Dallas on several occasions between 31st October and 21st November 1963 in order to raise funds for the anti-Castro exiles. This included meeting Edwin Walker. On his return to Miami he "reportedly stated that Walker had no further interest in Cuban affairs." However, Gerry Hemming has claimed that Vidal obtained money from H. L. Hunt, who had been largely responsible for funding Walker's campaign for governor in Texas. Clint Murchison and Gordon McLendon have also been suggested as possible contributors to Vidal's operation.http://spartacus-educational.com/JFKsantiago.htm
Original anzeigen (0,3 MB)Die Behauptung kam offenbar von Walker
"bevor feststand, wie es wirklich war"? Hätte man auf Spuren in Richtung einer Verschwörung bis zum Ende verfolgt und dann öffentlich gemacht?
Guy Banister....
z.B. mit Leuten wie Guy Banister und dem Exilkubaner Carlos Bringuier in New Orleans
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Original anzeigen (0,2 MB)Den Film kannte ich noch nicht. Im Ausklapptext darunter steht:http://emuseum.jfk.org/view/objects/asitem/classification@Films/10/title-asc;jsessionid=59AD376B761406104D6C7476DB604D62...
Die Wahrheit hätte das System in seiner Existenz bedroht und viele politische Karrieren vernichtet, weil dann auch andere schmutzige Dinge an die Öffentlicheit gekommen wären, z.B. die Zusammenarbeit von Mafia und CIA und die mafiösen verbindungen einiger Politiker.jfk-inside schrieb:Die Wahrheit wäre mir lieber gewesen.
Einen Ermittlugnsansatz zu einer indirekten Verbindungen zwischen Walker und Oswald. Die Hintergründe John T. oder "Jack" Martins:
In 1968, Harold Weisberg and his right-hand assistant, Gary Schoener, received the Jack Martin home movie, from Jack Martin himself, who had turned pacifist, and had a sit-down meeting with the young Jack T. Martin.http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/23168-jack-t-martin/
I interviewed Gary Schoener in 2012, who told me that he and Weisberg learned that young Jack Martin had been a rightist extremist in 1963, a former trooper under General Walker in Germany, as well as a member of the Minutemen and the John Birch Society.
I was delighted when Gary Mack obtained this home movie for the 6th Floor Museum, and posted it for free on the Internet. Here it is.
http://emuseum.jfk.org/view/objects/asitem/classification@Films/9/title-asc?t:state:flow=38c26749-3dc5-4b4e-80e1-b58d2275024f (Archiv-Version vom 21.10.2017)
I implored Gary Mack to set up an interview with Jack T. Martin, but Gary told me that the sole condition for obtaining the Jack Martin film was that Jack T. Martin must never be contacted by anybody at any time. So, Gary refused to give me Martin's contact info.
Also akzeptieren wir lieber die Lüge.
der Link enthält eine gute Zusammenfassung:
Interpretation bleibt dir selbst überlassen.
Here's Martin Shackelford's 1996 description of the "Jack Martin Film":
The Jack Martin Film (8-9-63) In another of those aforementioned ironic twists, a tourist named Jack Martin was in Dallas in August 1963. His film records his view from the airplane. Next, he visits General Edwin Walker, under whom he had served, allegedly target of an assassination attempt by Lee Oswald in April of that year. The film documents the scene of that attempt: the window through which the shot was fired, the bullet hole, and the wall from behind which it was most likely fired, ending with shots of Walker's flag and mailbox, and a nearby building under construction (allegedly also photographed by Oswald prior to the attempt!) . Then we see the entrance to a movie theater, cypress trees, a seal at the edge of a pool,and the statue of Andrew Jackson in Lafayette Park in New Orleans. Aroused by a commotion on Canal Street, Martin crossed to see what was happening, and began filming. We see Lee Oswald, leaflets in hand,standing on the sidewalk, being harangued by anti-Castro militants including Carlos Bringuier. Four police officers are seen arriving. The film ends with a view of the yellow leaflets scattered on the sidewalk after Bringuier knocked them out of Oswald's hands, and a brief aerial view of a subdivision. Parts of the film have only been used, to my knowledge, on the French television documentary, "Le Mystere Kennedy." The documentary is available on video, and frames from the film as well, from The Collector's Archives. A still from this film was finally published in Robert Groden's 1995 book, "The Search for Lee Harvey Oswald," an essential photo archive on Oswald. (Martin Shackelford, 1996)
OK. Hören-Sagen vom Hören-Sagen, das soweit aber plausibel erklärt, warum ein gewisser Herr Martin den Herrn Walker in Dallas besucht hat. Irgendeinen Grund und/oder Bezehung zu Walker muss er ja auch gehabt haben.
Bobby und Jackie ließen den Sowjets wenige Tage nach dem Attentat die Nachricht zukommen, dass sie nicht an einen Einzeltäter sondern an eine Verschwörung von innerhalb der USA glaubten
Scheiße, bis heute hat sich nichts geändert.
Und wo ist nun der Unterschied zur offiziellen Version ?
LHO, der zuvor angeblich auf Walker geschossen haben soll, der bei Banister (Walker-verbindung) arbeitete und in eine "Auseinandersetzung" mit Carlos Bringuier (Walker-Verbindung) geriet und dabei von einem Anhänger Walkers gefilmt wird
was meinst du mit "sinister"? Du sprachst davon, dass Walker über sein Netzwerk Informationen über Oswald eingeholt haben könnte. Walker hatte nicht nur Wissen über Oswald, also Täterwissen, sondern auch das Motiv und die nötigen Verbindungen um an einer Oswald einschließenden Verschwörung zur Ermordung JFKs teilzunehmen.
At the time of the assassination, Molina was employed at the TSBD as a credit manager (WCE 2036). Molina was a Mexican American; who was also one of the co-founders of the Dallas chapter of the American G.I. Forum (see here). For those who are unfamiliar, the American G.I. Forum was an organisation established to protect the rights of Mexican Americans...One of the co-founders of the Dallas chapter of the American G.I. Forum was Felix G. Botello. As researcher Greg Parker points out, Botello was a member of an extreme militia group found with a large cache of weapons being sent to Mississippi to aid former Army general Edwin A. Walker during the racial riots there in October, 1962. As Parker also explains, weapons were disappearing from Army armories (see here). One such example is the theft of weapons from the National Guard Armory in Terrell, Texas, on November 14, 1963. The two men arrested by the DPD for possession of these stolen weapons were Lawrence Reginald Miller and Donnell Whitter/Whittier (see here). Curiously, Whitter/Whittier was a mechanic who had once serviced Jack Ruby’s car.http://jfkthelonegunmanmyth.blogspot.de/2015/09/who-was-behind-assassination.html
noch nicht mal über die Schusswunden sind sich HSCA und WC einig...
Der WR ist meiner Meinung nach immer noch Dreck und zusammengewürfelter, dem gewünschten Ergebnis angepasster Kram.
Tut mir echt Leid.
Also, wenn mich meine Kenntnis der Englischen Sprache nicht trügt, berichtet auf der von Dir zitierten und verlinkten Seite, ein Australier namens Hasan Yusuf, dass ein "researcher" namens Greg Parker herausgefunden haben will, dass der mir namentlich als TSBD-Mitarbeiter durchaus bekannte Herr Molina, Gründungsmitglied eines Vereins war, dessen weiteres Gründungsmitglied ein gewisser Herr Felix Botello war, welcher wiederum Mitglied einer namentlich nicht genannten Exstremistengruppe war, welche angeblich Ex-General Walker während der Rassenunruhen im Oktober 1962, Waffen nach Mississippi geschickt hat.
At the time of the assassination, Molina was employed at the TSBD as a credit manager (WCE 2036). Molina was a Mexican American; who was also one of the co-founders of the Dallas chapter of the American G.I. Forum (see here). For those who are unfamiliar, the American G.I. Forum was an organisation established to protect the rights of Mexican Americans...One of the co-founders of the Dallas chapter of the American G.I. Forum was Felix G. Botello. As researcher Greg Parker points out, Botello was a member of an extreme militia group found with a large cache of weapons being sent to Mississippi to aid former Army general Edwin A. Walker during the racial riots there in October, 1962. As Parker also explains, weapons were disappearing from Army armories (see here). One such example is the theft of weapons from the National Guard Armory in Terrell, Texas, on November 14, 1963. The two men arrested by the DPD for possession of these stolen weapons were Lawrence Reginald Miller and Donnell Whitter/Whittier (see here). Curiously, Whitter/Whittier was a mechanic who had once serviced Jack Ruby’s car.
http://jfkthelonegunmanmyth.blogspot.de/2015/09/who-was-behind-assassination.html
