Israel - wohin führt der Weg?
30.08.2026 um 21:45Herzallerliebster, deine Äußerung fiel im Zusammenhang mit NGOs:Ataraxie89 schrieb am 25.08.2026:
Zitiere doch einfach einen Beitrag von mir, wo ich voreingenommene Quellen für meinen Standpunkt nutze statt auszuweichen mein Bester.bredulino schrieb am 25.08.2026:Du hast doch selbst geschrieben:
Zu Andrew Seal:
Erinnere dich an die Ausagen Dr. Thierens- englischer Audiotrack und Untertitel sind verfügbar:
7 octobre : le témoignage poignant du représentant de l’OMS en Israël - Dr Michel Thieren
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Diese jüdische Quelle gibt seine Aussagen korrekt wieder:
Just two months after October 7, international organizations were already discussing how to apply the term “famine” to the situation in Gaza.Wen meinst du den sonst mit deiner Aussage, dass der Genozidvorwurf schon vor dem 7. Oktober erhoben wurde, wenn nicht NGOs? Marsmenschen?
This was revealed by World Health Organization representative to Israel, Dr. Michel Thieren, on the Mosaïque podcast last week.
The podcast was created by Akadem and the French Institute of Israel, and former journalist Antoine Mercier hosted the episode.
Thieren attended a multilateral governance meeting about Gaza in Geneva in December 2023. During the meeting, Thieren said organizations discussed how important it would be to scientifically demonstrate the occurrence of a famine in Gaza, and how to use the term for communication and political pressure on Israel. According to him, this was explicitly discussed at the highest levels in these meetings.
“At the very end of the meeting – I won’t say exactly where, and it wasn’t necessarily at the WHO, rest assured – there was a gathering of experts who asked the question quite forcefully. I was there, and I was absolutely stunned. What they were saying, essentially, was that one should try to find a term that could be used to exert pressure. So yes, I was very shocked by that.”
Thieren added that what shocked him the most was that, in these circles, the perpetrators and the victims were designated from the very beginning, “from October 8.”
“So when these people were saying it would be necessary to demonstrate famine, the guilt had already been assigned [to Israel]. When we talk about genocide, the WHO never went there, others did – but very early, these people pronounced these two terms [genocide and famine], they were thrown out right from the start. So the crimes were already predetermined, and then the organizations tried to demonstrate them. And for me, that is not normal at all.”
https://www.jpost.com/international/article-871851#google_vignette
Amnesty Israel, the local branch of the Amnesty International organization, rejected a report released Thursday by its parent group that accused Israel of committing genocide in the Gaza Strip, with some members accusing the report’s authors of reaching a “predetermined conclusion.”https://www.timesofisrael.com/predetermined-conclusions-amnesty-israel-workers-slam-parent-groups-genocide-charge/
Amnesty Israel said that although the death and destruction in Gaza had reached “catastrophic proportions,” its own analysis did not find that Israel’s actions met the definition of genocide.
The Israeli branch of the international rights group asserted, however, that Israel’s actions in the war against Hamas following the terror group’s massacres of October 7, 2023, “may amount to crimes against humanity and ethnic cleansing.”
Warum? Per Logik dürften dann auch muslimische Quellen und alle Quellen aus dem Nahen Osten nicht neutral sein. Was ist mit Juden wie Norman Finkelstein, die Israel des Genozids bezichtigen?
Teils- also wird nicht alles mit Lügen diskreditiert. Der Teil, der nicht mit Lügen diskreditiert, sondern mit Fakten, Belegen, Argumenten, Kritik.
Z.B. konntest du nicht widerlegen, dass in früheren Konflikten in Äthiopien und Sudan Terroristen in den von ihnen kontrollierten Gebieten Hilfsgüter stahlen und die UNO als Gegenmaßnahme zu Recht die Hilfslieferungen einstellte. In Gaza 2009 ebenso, als Hamas Hilfsgüter stahl. Unabhängig davon, wie groß der Anteil der gestohlenen Güter war. Solche Maßnahmen sind legitim. Aber wenn Israel das tut, wenn Hamas stiehlt, ist natürlich Hunger als Waffe...
Übrigens, manche NGO-Mitarbeiter bzw. -Abteilungen berichten doch ab und zu wahrheitsgemäß:
https://www.stern.de/news/hochrangiger-un-vertreter-erhebt-schwere-vorwuerfe-gegen-die-hamas-im-gazastreifen-37958800.html
