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off-peak schrieb:Wenn man sich auf dieser Seite hier:
http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/
mal die beiden in Frage kommenden Frames 224:
http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z224.jpg
und 225:
http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z225.jpg
ansieht und miteinander vergleicht, dann weisen die aber keinen solchen eklatanten Unterschied in Conolly´s Körperhaltung auf wie die hier eingestellten GIFs.
Wie darf man sich das erklären?
Dass auf enormen Vergrößerungen Veränderungen "eklatanter" erscheinen ist überraschend. Auf den von dir verlinkten Einzelbildern erkennt man wie auf den gifs zum Beispiel:
1. die Bewegung der Krawatte, ihr Winkel ändert sich von 224 auf 225, gut zu erkennen, da sie sich vom weißen Hemd abhebt
2. die linke Schulter Hüpfer nach oben- das schwarze Jackett hebt sich von Jackie Kennedys rosa Anzug ab. Einfach auf die rosa Fläche über Connallys Schulter achten
Dass sowas auf Vergrößerungen "eklatant" wirkt, ist logisch
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Groucho schrieb:Du meinst diese drei/vier Splitter die mit bloßem Auge kaum noch zu erkennen sind?
Wie bitte?
Two small fragments were removed from his wrist (Warren Commission Hearings, vol.17, p.841 [Commission Exhibit 842]). The larger of the two fragments weighed 0.5 grain (Warren Commission Hearings, vol.5, p.72).
Dr Charles Gregory, who operated on Connally’s wrist, pointed out that other fragments were removed from the wrist and then mislaid: “there were two fragments of metal retrieved … the major one or ones now being missing” (Warren Commission Hearings, vol.4, p.123). Nurse Audrey Bell also recalled several missing fragments: ARRB MD 184, pp.2f.
A fragment measuring approximately 2 mm by 0.5 mm was removed from just below the skin on the thigh (Warren Commission Hearings, vol.4, p.125).
Other fragments were left in place. According to Dr Robert Shaw, who had operated on Connally, “more than three grains of metal [remained] in the wrist” (Warren Commission Hearings, vol.4, p.113).
A small fragment remained in the chest (Warren Commission Hearings, vol.6, p.111).
A flake of metal measuring approximately 2 mm by 0.2 mm remained embedded in Connally’s femur
(Warren Commission Hearings, vol.4, p.125).
Hier ist mindestens 7 Fragmenten die Rede
Groucho schrieb:Was mich betrifft, können die gut von der fraglichen Kugel gekommen sein.
Was die Pathologen betrifft, eher nicht.
Dr. Humes vor der WC
I think that is most unlikely. … This missile is basically intact; its jacket appears to me to be intact, and I do not understand how it could possibly have left fragments in either of those locations. … I doubt if this missile would have left behind it any metallic fragments from its physical appearance at this time. … Metallic fragments were not removed and are still present in Governor Connally’s thigh. I can’t conceive of where they came from this missile.
(Warren Commission Hearings, vol.2, pp.374–76
http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=38#relPageId=382
Dr. Finck:
there are too many fragments
http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=38#relPageId=390&tab=page
Groucho schrieb:Nicht wegen Kennedys Haltung(die geht schon klar), sondern wegen Conellys Haltung.
Egal ob bei Frame 224 oder früher hinter dem Verkehrsschild- bedenke, dass JFK ein Korsett trug, dass seine Bewegungsfreiheit einschränkte
By 1962, JFK’s pain stabilized. He took every precaution to avoid trauma and was reluctant to discontinue use of his back brace and crutches when recommended by physicians.
“Several biographers have noted that his back pain consumed a great deal of his time and effort and may have been a contributing factor in his assassination in Dallas in 1963,” authors write. “When the first bullet struck him in the back of the neck, his back brace held him erect, allowing the next and fatal bullet to strike the back of his head. JFK’s aching back was with him until the bitter end.”
http://www.uofmhealth.org/news/archive/201311/reconceptualizing-jfks-chronic-low-back-pain (Archiv-Version vom 13.01.2016)
On that fateful day in Dallas, he was wearing a supportive back brace, as he usually did, especially during longer trips such as this particular campaign trip to Texas. When the first bullet struck him in the back of the neck
this brace prevented him from falling forward and potentially out of the way of further harm, allowing the second and fatal shot to strike him in the back of the head.
http://physicalsolutionsli.com/kennedy-assassination-jfks-low-back-pain-wearing-back-brace/Members of Kennedy's inner circle had often witnessed the painful ritual that Kennedy endured in his private quarters before he ventured in public, when his valet would literally winch a steel-rodded canvas back brace around the president's torso, pulling heavy straps and tightening the thongs loop by loop as if it was a bizarre scene out of "Gone With the Wind."
Once in it, the president was planted upright, trapped and almost bolted into a ramrod posture
http://articles.latimes.com/2004/nov/22/opinion/oe-reston22As the nation was just beginning to reel from shock, Kennedy was rushed to Parkland Hospital, where Dr. Kenneth Salyer, a 27-year-old resident at the time, was on call for head trauma. Dr. Salyer, who said that the president was still barely breathing when he arrived at the hospital, was surprised to find that JFK was wearing a stiff back brace underneath his clothes. Salyer believes if the president hadn't been wearing a back brace, he might have survived the shooting.
"The first shot that hit him went through the soft tissue of the back of his shoulder and exited through his trachea," Dr. Salyer told CBS News. "That same bullet went through [Texas Governor] John Connally's chest, through his right hand and into his thigh and knocked him completely down in the car." Connally, who fell over immediately after being shot, was spared additional bullets and survived. But Kennedy, whose back brace prevented him from slumping over, was shot another time in the head. "He's still upright as a target because he has the brace on, which makes it possible for Lee Harvey Oswald to hit him with a second shot," Salyer told CBS News. "I think that would not have happened if he had gone down like John Connally did."
http://www.medicaldaily.com/jfk-assassination-if-president-hadnt-been-wearing-back-brace-he-may-have-survived-doctor-says-263504
Groucho schrieb:Das musst du letztlich mit @Africanus besprechen, da ich an die single bulet glaube, kann das nicht der frame des Treffers sein, weil Conallys Körperhaltung nicht passt für die "magic"/single bulet
Warum sollte ich das mit Africanus besprechen, wenn wir uns einig sind?
Deine Theorie müsste eine Erklärung für die abrupten gleichzeitigen Bewegungen von Connallys Anzug und Krawatte liefern.
Im Übrigen glauben Dale Myers, John McAdams, David von Pein und andere OTler wie du an die SBT- ordnen den Schuss aber Z224 zu. Das hat sich allmählich als OT-Konsens in den letzte Jahren durchgesetzt
Aber EGAL wann dieser Schuss stattfand, war Kennedy nicht weit genug vorgebeugt
bredulino schrieb:es ist von den Kugeln die Rede
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