JFK - Attentataufdeckung

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FF schrieb:Dann sind die also, so wie wir bei unseren Betrachtungen hier, zu etwas unterschiedlichen Schlüssen gekommen. Bei soundsoviel Frames pro Sekunde macht das genau was aus, was den Ablauf des Attentates angeht? Und aus der Distanz des angenommenen Schützen macht das wie viel Grad Unterschied des Schusswinkels aus?

Nach wie vor glaube ich nicht, dass damit eine Manipulation zu belegen ist.

Dann sind die also, so wie wir bei unseren Betrachtungen hier, zu etwas unterschiedlichen Schlüssen gekommen.

FF schrieb:Bei soundsoviel Frames pro Sekunde macht das genau was aus, was den Ablauf des Attentates angeht?

FF schrieb:Was würde es bringen, Frames zu entfernen? Und würde das dann nicht sehr in der Abfolge auffallen, bei soundsovielen Frames pro Sekunde? Es ist ja nicht so, als würde der Zapruder-Film plötzlich zu ruckeln anfangen, weil jemand 45 (!) Frames entfernt hat.

FF schrieb:Auch an Dich die Frage: Da hätten 45 Frames entfernt werden müssen ... eine ganze Menge. Und dass, ohne dass der Ablauf ruckelt.

FF schrieb:Auch an Dich die Frage: Da hätten 45 Frames entfernt werden müssen ... eine ganze Menge. Und dass, ohne dass der Ablauf ruckelt.

FF schrieb:Die Frage, warum da was anders angegeben wurde, ist eine andere.

Chester Breneman, a surveyor who participated in two separate reenactments of the Kennedy assassination, said the studies proved that more than one man was involved in the shooting. Breneman, who went on to become county surveyor of Eastland County, Texas, told this author in 1978 that distance and time figures published by the Warren Commission were “at odds” with figures obtained in the reenactment staged for the FBI and Secret Service in 1964.

Breneman’ s story was confirmed by Dallas County surveyor Bob West, who also participated in both reenactments. Both men were in West’s office on the Monday following the assassination when a man entered. Breneman recalled:

said he was a special investigator for Life magazine. He asked if we would make an investigation down there and see if any other bullets were fired and from which direction they came. They were aware at that time that something was haywire. . . . So, we went down there and roped the area off. I stood on the parapet where Zapruder stood and took those pictures. They had still pictures of all the frames of Zapruder’s film.

Breneman and West took measurements of the plaza and distances from the Texas School Book Depository and matched everything against the Zapruder stills.

Later that day, Breneman accompanied Life’ s investigators to the thirteenth floor of Dallas’s Adolphus Hotel, where they were headquartered. He said at that time everybody involved agreed that no one man could have done all the shooting the day of the assassination.

Breneman said the magazine investigators also had obtained a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle and attempted to work the bolt in the time frame attributed to Oswald.

Breneman, a former Marine medal winner for marksmanship, said he, too, worked the rifle’s bolt for hours. He said: “We came to the conclusion that it couldn’t be done in the time limit they were trying to get me down to.”

He also said a strange incident occurred during his time with the magazine people: “This man told me, ‘My life isn’t worth a plug nickel on this investigation.’ Then he pulled his shirt back and showed me this bullet-proof vest. I thought that was a little odd.”

Breneman again was visiting his friend West on May 31, 1964, when the FBI and Secret Service reenacted the assassination for the Warren Commission. Both surveyors participated in the tests. Breneman recalled:

We again measured distances and elevations by matching the frames of the Zapruder film. We examined a bullet mark on the curb on the south side of street. This part of the curb was replaced shortly after the assassination. Also, right after the assassination, they were mentioning a sign which had a stress mark from a bullet on it. It’s my understanding that this particular sign was quickly taken down and no one has been able to locate it.

During the May reenactment, Breneman said the FBI used a big Cadillac as a substitute for Kennedy’s Lincoln Continental. “It was in no way like Kennedy’s limousine,” said Breneman.
West said: “That was one thing that was always funny to me. They brought this big old Cadillac down to use in the tests, but it was thirteen inches higher than Kennedy’s car.”

Breneman added: “They were all crunched up in there, shoulder to shoulder. In that condition it could have been possible for one man to shoot two of them.”

West said his study showed that one of the alleged shots from the Depository followed a path straight through a leafy tree. West said: “If he shot through a hole in that tree, it was absolutely fantastic.” Breneman concluded:

I wish to state that both investigations led us to believe beyond any doubt that there were two assassins. Life magazine’s special investigators believed this to be true. The Secret Service would not say. But at the time, that seemed to be the reason we were there and we felt the Secret Service felt that way too.

After the Warren Commission published the figures from the government reenactment, Breneman and West were shocked to find that the figures did not match those made by them at the time. Both Breneman and West retained copies of the Dealey Plaza reenactment figures.

Breneman said:

They were at odds with our figures. After checking a few figures, I said, “That’s enough for me,” and I stopped reading. . . For instance, on our map, we marked the spot corresponding to Zapruder film frame 171. The Warren Commission changed this to 166 before they used it in the report. The Warren Report shows a 210 where we show a 208. . . . It would seem to me that . . . these figures were changed just enough that the Warren Commission could come up with the idea that another shot came from the same direction as the first. But all I have been concerned with is, did another shot come from another direction? I know danged well it did.

Neither Breneman nor West—the actual surveyors used for the Commission’ s reenactment studies—were asked to testify. Further, the Commission declined to publish the map drawn by Breneman and West, claiming it was inaccurate.

This map indicates a bullet hit on the south curb of Elm Street. Breneman said: “We were told not to study those bullet marks by the FBI.”

Again, any meaningful search for the truth of the assassination was ended by altered figures and orders not to note extraneous bullet marks—all from federal authorities.

FF schrieb:Das kommt darauf an, wie viele Frames pro Sekunde aufgenommen wurden, und die Reaktion auf einen Schuss kann man nicht mit einem einzigen Frame entfernen.

FF schrieb:Das kommt darauf an, wie viele Frames pro Sekunde aufgenommen wurden, und die Reaktion auf einen Schuss kann man nicht mit einem einzigen Frame entfernen.