Oscar Pistorius, das Model, der Valentinstag und das war dann Notwehr

CosmicQueen schrieb:Na warum gibt es dann den Spruch: "Angriff ist die beste Verteidigung" ? Jeder handhabt das wohl anders und vielleicht hat O.P das als einzige Lösung für sich gesehen, wer weiß.

.lucy. schrieb:Wenn ich mich in Reeva versetze, kann ich mir kaum vorstellen, dass sie mit einem Menschen wie Pistorius wirklich eine Beziehung haben wollte, statt sich bei einem Mann sicher zu fühlen, muss man ja Angst vor ihm haben

pfiffi schrieb:Es ist kriminalistischer Standard: Wer unter dem erlauchten Deckmantel der Selbstverteidigung aktiv auf Jagd geht, hat andere Motive. das sieht - zumindest in Deutschland - zu Recht und richtigerweise auch die Rechtsprechung so.

Comtesse schrieb:Ich habe mich auch gefragt, ob sie wohl wusste, dass OP noch gar nicht mit Sam Taylor Schluss gemacht hatte, als er sie bereits als offizielle neue Freundin bei der Gala im November präsentierte.

I've always wondered why Pistorius posed his locked bedroom door as a problem for him, in his bail hearing affidavit?

He made it sound like that locked door prevented him from leaving the bedroom and therefore that he had to get his gun and go right into the face of his supposed intruder. It was more difficult for him to turn a key in the lock and leave the bedroom, than it was to walk around the corner into the bathroom? How did he know the supposed intruder wasn't standing by the sinks or in the toilet doorway, ready to shoot him dead the minute he walked into the bathroom?

He could walk into the arms of a dangerous intruder, but he couldn't unlock a door!

Nothing Pistorius says makes any sense whatsoever, it does, though, help him delay getting help for Ms Steenkamp.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=237992&page=3

List of things that for me don't ring true from the start of Oscar's "story"

1) Reeva not turning a single light on on her way to the toilet.

2) Reeva opening the bathroom window at around 3 in the morning, why?

3) Oscar brings in fans and shuts doors and curtain's in the pitch black, was he planning on plugging them in in the pitch black?.

4) Oscar not doing what is the most instinctive thing in the world in this situation, telling his partner he has heard a noise and he is going to investigate it and telling her to call the police/security, and go downstairs to safety, oscar claims of protection are clearly nonsense.

5) What is better way of protecting your girlfriend calling security and getting out of the house?, or charge into the pitch black not knowing if you will be hurt/killed leaving your girlfriend totally unprotected


6) Oscar is to scared to tun the light's on??????, strange to want to stay in the dark, if an intruder wasn't moving and you were there's a very good chance they will see you first.

7) Oscar says "On my way to the bathroom I screamed words to the effect for him/them to get out of my house and for Reeva to phone the police".
This is where it get's really confusing, to scared to turn a light on but yet happy to bring complete attention to where he is???, why not calmly tell Reeva to call the police before he left the bedroom?
Note on this point, Oscar has recently added a new line to his story, He says" During the early hours of the morning I brought two fans in from the balcony,"
"I had shortly before spoken to Reeva who was in bed beside me.
The reason he has added the bolded part above IMO is because without it the screaming for Reeva to call the police part has no credibility if he thought she was asleep at that point.
Also if you screamed at someone in that close a proximity to you, is it credible to believe they wouldn't give you some kind of response

8) I cannot believe that anyone would open fire on that door so recklessly,
Obviously the first thing to do is say something, like who's there?, i know you are in there? if no reply i would say it would be perfectly reasonable to give a warning that if you open the door i will shoot, but surely in any case when you would feel the need to shoot you would fire one bullet and listen as you would clearly be able to hear if you have injured that person.

9) this is very odd, when he gets back to the bedroom he says "Everything was pitch dark in the bedroom and I was still too scared to switch on a light".
To me this suggests Oscar is playing for time with his statement, he is trying to pad his story out a bit i.e if he goes into his bedroom and turns the light on as you would, he would notice Straight away that Reeva is not there, instead by saying "i was still to scared to turn the light on" and "Reeva was not responding", he seems to be buying himself a few more seconds.

10)That is when it dawned on me that it could have been Reeva who was in the toilet.

I returned to the bathroom calling her name. I tried to open the toilet door but it was locked.
Calling her name?, would he not have been desperately yelling/shouting her name rather than calling it?, maybe if he claimed to be yelling/shouting her name it would have given him a problem because no one else would have heard it(because it didn't happen).

I rushed back into the bedroom and opened the sliding door exiting onto the balcony and screamed for help.
Strange this one, he is in his locked house and goes onto the balcony screaming for help, what good would that do?, all his time should have been spent getting the toilet door open.

I put on my prosthetic legs, ran back to the bathroom and tried to kick the toilet door open.

I think I must then have turned on the lights.
Suspicious of this part, feels very added on.

11) Probably the biggest question of all, put yourself in Oscar's place for a moment here, you have "accidentally" shout your partner through your toilet door, you smash down the door, your partner was "slumped over but still alive", what is the first thing you do?, well if your Oscar pistorius you ring the estate manager?????????????????, and not an ambulance/netcare, truly bizarre.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=237992&page=3

Tussinelda schrieb:denn Stander wohnte da, er wäre schnell bei OP,